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Originally Posted by No Doubt
...afforded more protection than a harness bar and helmet, sans HANS device, would.
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Why did you exclude the HANS device from the harness bar & helmet protection system in a non race car? Why would you assume a car with a harness bar only wouldn't have a race seat? Many non-race cars have those items.
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Originally Posted by No Doubt
One can't possibly argue that a stock vehicle is as safe as a T1 equipped car when doing 150+ mph. Or that even a harness bar, harness and helmet is as safe. Safe'er, granted, but not as safe as it could be considering the speeds and potential crash scenarios at those speeds.
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You're making an argument where none exists. I never said a harness bar was safer than a T1 equipped car. It would be foolish to think it was.
By the same token, one can't argue that a T1 equipped car is safer than a dedicated tube frame race car. T1's are as safe as they can make them
for the series, but a fuel cell, a fire suppression system and no superflous carpet, dash material, and passenger seat would make them even safer. Here we are again at partially safe and not at absolutely safe.
So, it sounds like you and I agree that some safety equipment is better than no safety equipment, which is where my original response started.