Bad experience at Les Stanford

[Prescott63]

Actually in Stanford's case it's not the Salesperson's fault for gauging or not honoring GMS pricing...It's company policy and the responsibility of the F&I guy to make sure you're gonna "pay"...many of us simply fall for it as it's not upfront and you'll never see documentation of the true GMS price. I don't know what they call it but there is certainly a way to overcharge a customer who qualifies for GMS...i.e. - wheel locks (a real scam that won't show on your RD 108) or contract, Michigan Protection Plan (a Stanford exclusive), etc.

Stanford certainly has the selection....and yes they will treat you very very well...with respect, courtesty etc. Just expect to b over charged!!!!!

BTW - This holds true with Cavaliers, Trailblazers, etc...It's not just a game with the vettes.

[Prescott63]

Actually in Stanford's case it's not the Salesperson's fault for gauging or not honoring GMS pricing...It's company policy and many of us simply fall for it. I don't know what they call it but there is certainly a way to overcharge a customer who qualifies for GMS...i.e. - bumping the rate, wheel locks (a real scam that won't show on your RD 108), MIchigan Protection Plan (a Stanford exclusive), etc.

Stanford certainly has the selection....and yes they will treat you very very well...with respect, courtesty etc. Just expect to pay more!!!!!

[reproman]

Actually in Stanford's case it's not the Salesperson's fault for gauging or not honoring GMS pricing...It's company policy and many of us simply fall for it. I don't know what they call it but there is certainly a way to overcharge a customer who qualifies for GMS...i.e. - bumping the rate, wheel locks (a real scam that won't show on your RD 108), MIchigan Protection Plan (a Stanford exclusive), etc.

It was interesting to note that all the "upfront" dealers (I'll avoid using the word honest) provided printouts of the list and the employee price.

Stanford did have a lot of tackons -- like paying over $100 for door edge tape that was applied crookedly.

But that was where I saw the first mod red Z that led me to my successful quest!

But I don't blame the salesman -- it is all just policy!

[reproman]

Best car salesman story was from a buddy of mine. He was getting divorced, so he shuffled his personal auto inventory and financed his soon to be ex-wife upside down. Well long story short, they got back together and the payment became "theirs". He told me, it was the first time in six years he ever screwed himself instead of the customer in a car deal.

[cwracing]

Originally Posted by Prescott63

Actually in Stanford's case it's not the Salesperson's fault for gauging or not honoring GMS pricing...It's company policy and many of us simply fall for it. I don't know what they call it but there is certainly a way to overcharge a customer who qualifies for GMS...i.e. - bumping the rate, wheel locks (a real scam that won't show on your RD 108), MIchigan Protection Plan (a Stanford exclusive), etc.

Stanford certainly has the selection....and yes they will treat you very very well...with respect, courtesty etc. Just expect to pay more!!!!!

Well it seems that you work at a dealer. What are sales policies at your dealership in regards to rates, GMS, and financing.

[Prescott63]

Originally Posted by cwracing

Well it seems that you work at a dealer. What are sales policies at your dealership in regards to rates, GMS, and financing.

Actually I don't work for a dealer....My brother in law is a GM Exec. and I have a friend who owns a GM dealership in SE Michigan. I'm very familiar with the tricks of the trade and have been burned/"had my head knocked off" a couple times...Simply have learned from my experiences...

[cwracing]

Well it seems in your profile that you are a salesperson. I have bought over 15 cars from Stanford and the have always been good to me. My salesman Chris Warren has been there over 13 years and has never steered me wrong.