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Old 04-26-2003, 02:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2 Week Ownership Impressions (long!)

Howdy Folks -

Just at the 2 week (and 1K miles) mark on the Z. Thought I'd give you some insight on what I think so far

First, this is my 4th Vette, prior cars were: 94 A4 Coupe, 95 M6 Coupe, 99 M6 Coupe and finally the 03 Z06. In the interim I had/have a 00 GS300 and built a crazy 94 Supra (umm, that's still in my needs-to-be-updated sig!).

The performance is oustanding - I'm so glad to be back into a NA V8. The power under the curve is excellent, I cannot wait to get on-track at Sebring next month. I can see this car needing less gear shifting because of the power/gearing mix. I love how when the cam gets into it's sweet spot how you can really feel it - almost feel like the sudden jump of a variable valve setup! And I don't have to tell you folks the sweet sounds of the LS6 wound up over 6K! I can tell the difference on the low end too, which may be due to the special Z06 gearing - 2nd 3rd and 4th seem substantially stronger over my M6 coupe I had, even under 4K RPM.

The handling is superb as well - this car has such a pleasurable blend of big car roominess and feels incredibly solid, yet reacts and handles transitions like a go-kart. My 99 had a Z51 springs/shocks (it started life as an F45 car which I really regretted) and later GM T1 swaybars. The T1's were extremely stiff, and added a significant amount of side-to-side harshness in the ride. I'd say the FE4 feels like is handles _better_ , yet has a much more supple ride.

My paint is pretty darn good - I was looking at my wifes Z3, and my GS, and then at Toyota Sequoia in traffic the other day and they ALL have a little orange peel. Now I undestand some Z's have it worse than others, so maybe I have one of the better examples, but it's not that much worse than those other cars. It's not as milky smooth as my Supra was, but then again, it had a $6000 paint job. The edges of the hood, underneath are a little rough, but it's consistent, like they don;'t really bother to finish underneath too much. Not really a big deal - my trunk underneath, on the forward edge has really thin paint - barely shows from under the trunk liner plastc.

The interior I had always liked - it's sooo close to being just dead-on, just a few things fall a little short. The materials in general I think are good - EVERY manufacturer uses vinyl, I looked very closely at M3's months ago, and it had some so-so plastic and vinyl pieces as well - welcome to modern cars. The layout/ergonimocs of the Z are excellent, the entire drivers area is very very good. The stereo and AC HU's are a little cheap, though plenty functional. The seat leather in mine seems pretty good, though the seats need better bolsters. I had the sport seats in my 99 and I remember them being a little better. Speaking of seats, I think they should make the power drivers seat and option too - mine never get's adjusted and it adds a little weight. In fact, I think REAL Z06 specific seat would be a huge upgrade for the car.

All the other things I always liked in my 99 - the HUD is great, the DIC is a nice feature, plenty of easy to read gauges, the AC works great (really great with my partition, can't say enough good things about Andy's product). I find the stock Bose system is fine (again, the partition improved the "tightness", especially the low freq base), though I will probably wind up with a nice AV HU that handle MP3's. FWIW, the OEM HU plays CD-R's just fine (of course audio encoded and not MP3).

I LOVE the styling of the Z06 - the wheels are great (and easy to clean, which is a big downer on some 3-piece designs) - the notch/trunk back is fantastic - I've had a bunch of people comment on how much they like the style (some even unaware of exactly how it's difference than a regular C5). I have always liked the C5's in general (even when I went over the darkside for a while) - I like the stance, proportions, width, etc. - they really nailed it, umm, I even like the big butt ("I like big butts and I can-not lie...")

So that's about it - I came back into Vette ownership knowing the goods and bads - I have a positive outlook on the whole thing, hell if something breaks it will get fixed. The few annoyance items on my 99 always got fixed, sometimes a little slower than others, but at least it was never anything major *and* I never had any hesitation on my dealer's part to fix things (and he never asked any questions, just wrote up the ticket and said thanks).

I think the car is an excellent balance of performance and streetability. I had a car put out 750+HP and it was simply undrivable - I know everybody lusts for the giant HP numbers, and it's certainly fun to build a car to that level, but you'd be surprised at how it's not nearly as much fun as you'd think. My real love has always been road racing, and I wanted a car that would be competent at the track, but fun, safe and reliable for day-today use. I think the car is very serious competition to *any* car currently manufactured, however, if the bean counters will step up to the plate at the same level the engineers have, maybe we'll see a real world-class supercar in the C6. It won't take much, they got about 95% right, let's just see some extra effort for a 101% car and I'll be first in line for a C6/Z06

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Old 04-26-2003, 08:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Great write up. I got mine about a month ago. Really like it a lot.
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Old 04-26-2003, 08:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Congrats on buying one of these amazingly affordable performance cars. Some snivel at the cars short comings while I praise it's prowlness and performance. Bill
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Old 04-27-2003, 07:56 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 04-27-2003, 08:29 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I was a little hesistant to sell my Supra and get a Z06....but since the first time I drove it....I haven't looked back..
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Old 09-24-2003, 03:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Hi DT,

Welcome from another ex-supra owner....

my former supra

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Congrats on buying one of these amazingly affordable performance cars. Some snivel at the cars short comings while I praise it's prowlness and performance. Bill
I agree...1 month and 91 miles...

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Old 09-24-2003, 03:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Hey Bro!

I saw you start posting here a few weeks ago, and have been meaning to say hello!

Yeah, I've had mine (Z06) since April and it's been a blast. The Supra got a little more attention and of course with the single was faster straightline, but on the road courses I've (re) run with the Z, it is just as much fun (and about as quick).

In fact, the no-tuning, get in and drive, no out-of-pocket repair expenses factors make it alot more fun than the Supra.

I guess you've probably seen that Andi B. is around here now, with a new Z06. His impressions have been really positive too - I wonder if he's going to hang on the Supra?

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Yeah I was getting tired of "tuning" my supra....so i sold it. Since the supra I picked up a Viper ACR and the Z06....haven't looked back since.



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Hey Bro!

I saw you start posting here a few weeks ago, and have been meaning to say hello!

Yeah, I've had mine (Z06) since April and it's been a blast. The Supra got a little more attention and of course with the single was faster straightline, but on the road courses I've (re) run with the Z, it is just as much fun (and about as quick).

In fact, the no-tuning, get in and drive, no out-of-pocket repair expenses factors make it alot more fun than the Supra.

I guess you've probably seen that Andi B. is around here now, with a new Z06. His impressions have been really positive too - I wonder if he's going to hang on the Supra?

Take it easy -

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I too have had my Z for two weeks but have put only about 500 miles on it. I agree with everything you said in your write up. My biggest complaints; lack of lateral support in the seats, Bose stereo is "ok" (I had a sweet system in my '95 Z07, and the biggest one.....over bumpy pavement...my car seems to "skip" from side to side. Im wondering if taking out the leaf springs and installing coil overs will cure this. Enough b*tching......I love this car. Im sure, in time, it will become the sentimental piece my '95 became.

Oh....one more complaint.....the fuel gauge is erratic, even after having the fuel sending units replaced and verifying I have the proper PCM programming.

All that being said.....none of it matters when I feel the rush of a 140 mph sprint.
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and the biggest one.....over bumpy pavement...my car seems to "skip" from side to side. Im wondering if taking out the leaf springs and installing coil overs will cure this.
You might want to go with the new Sachs 2004 shocks. These are OEM in the 2004 Z06. It should cure your "biggest" problem.

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