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Old 10-14-2004, 07:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Corvette's BLACK BOX?

Does the new corvettes, 2004 + have a BLACK BOX that records the speed and actions in the last 60 secs before a crash?

Just wondering.. heard on the radio today about these boxes being in ALL the newer cars.

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They've had them for years. Except they only record the last 30 seconds before an accident. It's a little metal box hidden behind the ashtray. It makes it so that your airbag system will deploy in the event of a crash, so I wouldn't recommend unhooking it.
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Old 10-14-2004, 11:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hmmmmm. I never knew that!
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Old 10-14-2004, 02:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I know C4's had them.
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Old 10-14-2004, 03:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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They've had them for years. Except they only record the last 30 seconds before an accident. It's a little metal box hidden behind the ashtray. It makes it so that your airbag system will deploy in the event of a crash, so I wouldn't recommend unhooking it.
Is it 30 seconds? I was under the impression it was much less than that. I was thinking it was something like the last 5 or maybe 15 seconds, plus engine RPM, steering wheel angle or movement, and if brakes were applied.

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Old 10-14-2004, 09:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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That is what I have heard as well 5 to 10 seconds before airbag deployment.

But, I could see that they could store a hell of a lot more info than that!! (In this age of "spyware" on almost every computer.)

I'm not paranoid! It's just everyone is out to get me! (just joking)
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Old 10-14-2004, 09:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i think it's five seconds.
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Old 10-14-2004, 09:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yea, a guy around here was busted in court by the black box for doing 145mph in residential area. He hit and killed two teenage girls backing out of drive way to go to school. Only law enforcement has the rights to unlock box with special software for cases like this. spy-ware I don't think so, this guy was trying to minimize his actions and wasn't aware of the box and was busted for lying in court like he should have been. They gave him max time for two deaths that he caused. I don't remember the time it goes back, but only saves info if air bags are deployed. You and I can't recover info, only court order if I remember correctly.
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Old 10-15-2004, 12:39 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I did a search and found lots of info on the blackbox. It looks like GM has been installing them since 1994. They were first installed in Camaros in 1996 and have been in Corvettes since 1997.

It appears that most of the boxes record the last 5 seconds of data before an air bag deployment or in some cases a near air bag deployment. After an air bag deployment the crash data is permanently recorded on a e-prom inside the blackbox.

I've been told the box also controls your air bag system. So if you try to take it out your air bags won't work and it will set codes.

Not only do the courts use the info against you, your insurance company will use it against you too. It shows all the things they would want to know including your speed and if you were wearing your seat belt (could they try to deny medical someday for not wearing your seatbelt?). If the insurance company gains access to your car (body shop?) you can bet they will read it. Most insurance companies have the software and all they have to do is plug the box into their laptop.

The data recording was supposed to be for air bag safety research, but we can all see where it's gone now.

In the C5 the box is located...
"Behind accessory trim plate, under heater and AC control".

Here is a pic of it in a 2001 Cadillac...

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Also some insurance companies are starting a program where they install a computer in your car to monitor your driving and they use this info to "adjust" your insurance premium.
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Like I said. Big Brother is watching YOU!!!!
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Like I said. Big Brother is watching YOU!!!!
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Old 10-17-2004, 12:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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They were first installed in Camaros in 1996 and have been in Corvettes since 1997.

My understanding is the Corvette had it way before 1997 with the C4's. I know my 96 has it.
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Anybody can download that info with the right "key"

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Also some insurance companies are starting a program where they install a computer in your car to monitor your driving and they use this info to "adjust" your insurance premium.

This is just announced here in Toronto, Canada. If you allow this and come under their guidelines, they will reduce your premium.

Some of the guidelines are very silly indeed.
1. Cannot drive during rush-hour. (in Toronto, RUSH hour starts at 5.00am to 9pm... what the HECK?!)
2. Must NOT go over the speed limit for more than twice in a month! (how do they know where I am and the speed limit..yikes!)
3.The list continues.. I'll try to post the list later.
4. This is NOT the black box in our vettes, this is another black box now from the insurance companies.

Lowering our premiums? HAAA! It's one big pot. If you lower it over there, then someone else goes up!!! BIG JOKE.

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