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Old 02-20-2006, 07:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Getting a stock bottom end Z06 into the 10's...

What does it take to get a Z06 with a stock bottom end to be able to run a trap speed capable of running in the 10's? I realize the drive and tire used are big factors but that's not what I'm asking. I want to know how much work is involved in getting a z06 with NO modifications to the bottom end running a 10. Help me out guys! I'm going to be selling my singled Supra soon and I want to know if this is an unrealistic goal or something I can look forward to.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What does it take to get a Z06 with a stock bottom end to be able to run a trap speed capable of running in the 10's? I realize the drive and tire used are big factors but that's not what I'm asking. I want to know how much work is involved in getting a z06 with NO modifications to the bottom end running a 10. Help me out guys! I'm going to be selling my singled Supra soon and I want to know if this is an unrealistic goal or something I can look forward to.
Well since some of our better drivers have been able to run mid 11's bone stock (with very good DA on excellent tracks), I would say that if you are one hotshot driver, a rowdy cam, some good engine breathing (l/t headers), a good tune and some ET streets, you could see yourself in the high 10's.

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Old 02-20-2006, 08:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have a stock bottom end Z06. My only power mods are cold air, Vortech SQ-trim supercharger, tuning and LG long tubes w/cats. My car is as quiet as a stock Z06 (I have stock mufflers), you would have a very difficult time picking out my mods if I didn't pop the hood (or open the door so you could see my rollbar ).

I'm in the process of upgrading to a T-trim, so I lose a bit of my stealth in exchange for more power.
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Old 02-21-2006, 07:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I have a stock bottom end Z06. My only power mods are cold air, Vortech SQ-trim supercharger, tuning and LG long tubes w/cats. My car is as quiet as a stock Z06 (I have stock mufflers), you would have a very difficult time picking out my mods if I didn't pop the hood (or open the door so you could see my rollbar ).

I'm in the process of upgrading to a T-trim, so I lose a bit of my stealth in exchange for more power.
That's right around the time I'd be looking to get, Wayne. I don't think cutting low 60's will be a problem for me as I've done it a few times in other IRS equipped cars. Hopefully the Z isn't much more difficult.
About your mods and power. I'm looking to be as reliable as possible, be able to drive my car on the street 7 days a week if I want to, and still be able to run a high 10. Like I said in my opening post, I'm coming from the Supra camp and this could be done fairly easily. This won' sway my decision from buying a Z06, but it will determine my modding process. From most of the posts I've read on here, 550rwhp is RIGHT at the internal breaking point of the engine. How do you feel about that Wayne? Would you trust your car enough to bring you on a 600 mile round trip?

Thanks for the help so far guys,
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Old 02-21-2006, 07:49 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Speak to RobZ here on the forum. If you can a wheel a Vette like this man does then 10's are no problem if you have the mods listed by Mike. I've been to the track and he's absolutely amazing once he's in the seat. He has under 400 HP to the rear wheels and cuts 10's no problem. Good Luck!
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Old 02-21-2006, 07:50 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm putting down 525RWHP @ 7lbs boost & would not be afraid to drive across country. Car gets 28 mpg on the hwy.
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About your mods and power. I'm looking to be as reliable as possible, be able to drive my car on the street 7 days a week if I want to, and still be able to run a high 10. Like I said in my opening post, I'm coming from the Supra camp and this could be done fairly easily. This won' sway my decision from buying a Z06, but it will determine my modding process. From most of the posts I've read on here, 550rwhp is RIGHT at the internal breaking point of the engine. How do you feel about that Wayne? Would you trust your car enough to bring you on a 600 mile round trip?

Thanks for the help so far guys,
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I do all my own work, so I trust it As KCMAGS said, the car is completely docile and gets nearly 30mpg on the highway. You could drive around all day and not get into boost if you don't want to (but you'll want to)

As far as 550rwhp being the limit, I don't think it's the ragged edge at all, so long as you have a good tune. My car has been running for a couple years with the blower and no issues.

As I mentioned in my first post, I'm actually moving from the ultra-quiet SQ trim to the T trim in the quest for more power. I will be ready to rebuild, but I will run the stock bottom end at 600+rwhp for a while until I decide to build a new motor.

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If I were looking to get a blower kit today, I would check out the Vortech kits being sold by A&A. Just don't get too greedy with the pullies

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I've seen good reviews of the A&A Vortech charger, I'd definetly consider going that route. Do you guys think the Maggie would be able to get me into the 10's reliably or at least as reliable as the centrifugal set-ups? I really do love the way the Maggie looks on top of the LS6 and if it could get me to my goals I'd rather go that route, but if not, then it'll probably be the A&A.
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I can't speak about the Maggie cars running 10s with just a blower, but here's my take on the Maggie vs. centrifugal blowers - if you're looking for a fast street car, the Maggie can't be beat. It builds boost just off idle and makes for a great power curve.

If you're racing, the centrifugals offer more useable power in the upper rpms and they continue to build power as the revs build. At the strip, it doesn't really matter what power you have under 3500 rpm. You spend no time there, even when launching. Most of the guys running faster times are launching at 4500+ rpm anyway.

On the street, my 345s spin as soon as I build boost , so having more power down low isn't really a concern for me.

Now, with the new KB blower coming out for the LSx motors, all that may change. You can get incredible peak HP and huge tq numbers. How it will work with a stock motor, who knows?

Install may be an issue for some people. The Maggie looks like it would be easier to install than any front mount blower, so that is an advantage for the DIY'er. I'm not afraid of modding my car, so that really didn't come in to play for me.

Hope that helps!
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If you want to do it cheap.... Nitrous, slicks and most likely a new clutch (stock one is barely adequate with bolt ons).

A good head/cam setup with some sticky rubber will get you there N/A
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Speak to RobZ here on the forum. If you can a wheel a Vette like this man does then 10's are no problem if you have the mods listed by Mike. I've been to the track and he's absolutely amazing once he's in the seat. He has under 400 HP to the rear wheels and cuts 10's no problem. Good Luck!
Rob has over 400rwhp Mario, but he DID go high 10's w/ only a cam, clutch, gears,ET Streets, headers,tune, Vararam, & maybe 1 or 2 tiny other goodies, but those are the major mods needed.
Of course, with those little mods, you'd better be a good driver!
Heads/Cam & above = 10.6-10.7...
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