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Old 09-29-2003, 02:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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New LINGENFELTER / 21MC 427 CI Engine Package

We are now offering a lower priced
427 CI Engine Package
for 97-2004 Corvettes

427 CID LS1, LS6 package
Darton sleeved factory LS1 block

550 BHP / 550 lbs-ft of torque

Package includes:
• Engine removal, inspection and disassembly
• Block machining and boring for sleeves
• Custom 7.0 L aluminum block preparation
• Darton modular sleeve assemblies
• CNC porting & polishing of cylinder heads
• LPE valve springs and lightweight valve spring retainers
• Stainless steel intake/exhaust valves
• Three angle valve job, checking of spring tensions and heights
• Custom designed LPE hydraulic roller camshaft
• Custom forged aluminum pistons - 10.7:1 comp
• Custom forged steel crankshaft & billet steel connecting rods
• Computer balanced rotating assembly
• Reassembly and blueprinting of the engine
• Professional installation, testing and tuning
• Stainless steel exhaust by Corsa Performance
• Donaldson washable air inlet system
• Chassis dyno testing after installation
• 2 year / 24,000 mile warranty
• Original engine reused for cores

1997 - 2004 Corvette package prices

Corvette LS1, LS6 $19,995.00

LPE long tube 304 stainless steel headers Included

Please allow 3-4 weeks for installation and tuning.


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Old 09-29-2003, 02:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sweet set up for that price...and it's LPE.!

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Old 09-29-2003, 03:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Will you take a 96 LT4 with a new spec II clutch as a down payment? I can be there in two weeks with the 01 Z

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Old 09-29-2003, 03:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What's the core charge if I keep my old LS6 shortblock?
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Old 09-29-2003, 04:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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IT L GO The core charge would be 1,500.00
Let me know if you have any further questions

Kens06 Depends on how much down you are expecting

RG Let me know when you are ready for one

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Old 09-29-2003, 04:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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550 crank HP, or RWHP?
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Old 09-29-2003, 04:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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RC45....that would be crank hp

Typical John now you drop the prices

I bet a tt stage 1 will only be $5k now

...now if you can just drop the stage 3 tt prices, all will be well in life
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For $20Large I would need to see more than 467rwhp.

LPE or not, those are rather low numbers for LS6's in this day and age.

We have folks here on the forum with 440rwhp heads and cam 346ci cars. Some even higher. (unless these claims are all lies and no-one has more than 410rwhp from a heads & cam in the real world).

One would hope all that money and work would net you 500rwhp, or very, very close to 500.

JMHO.
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Old 09-29-2003, 04:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
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How much are you offering and what about cams, full rollers, dual springs and headers already on the Z motor??

I'm not fishing, I want a 427!!

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For $20Large I would need to see more than 467rwhp.

LPE or not, those are rather low numbers for LS6's in this day and age.

We have folks here on the forum with 440rwhp heads and cam 346ci cars. Some even higher. (unless these claims are all lies and no-one has more than 410rwhp from a heads & cam in the real world).

ACTUALLY our Heads / Cam PKG. puts out between
425-430 RWHP and has a 2 year Warranty!

One would hope all that money and work would net you 500rwhp, or very, very close to 500.

Yes it is right at 500 RWHP or more depending on cam choice ( LPE tends to underestimate the power of all the PKGs and leave the creative math to others.)

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John,

So, is the only difference b/w this package and the other ~$28k 427 package (including headers) the fact that the other uses a C5R block? If so, why the large disparity? I can see the R block being $4-5k more, but not $8-9k more. Just curious.

Regarding the RWHP rating... I for one need to have a combo that will pass a sniffer. It's not here in DFW now, but it is coming. I would rather get 470rwhp and be emissions legal, than use some radical cam/head setup and make more HP/CI, but have no chance of passing smog.

I was talking to another local shop owner who I've known for years and expressing this sentiment. Seems that basically no one caters to the emissions-compliant crowd, and I understand why. You spend the same $$ and make less HP. But, nevertheless I'm willing to do that for a package that can both make awesome power and pass strict smog (which LPE's does).

I'm spraying on top of it anyway.
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John,

So, is the only difference b/w this package and the other ~$28k 427 package (including headers) the fact that the other uses a C5R block? If so, why the large disparity? I can see the R block being $4-5k more, but not $8-9k more. Just curious.

It is a SPECIAL Intoductory Price,
let me know if you want the C5R Block
and I will also make you a Special Price

Regarding the RWHP rating... I for one need to have a combo that will pass a sniffer. It's not here in DFW now, but it is coming. I would rather get 470rwhp and be emissions legal, than use some radical cam/head setup and make more HP/CI, but have no chance of passing smog.

We can make it pass the sniffer, I would assume your requested # would not be a problem.

I was talking to another local shop owner who I've known for years and expressing this sentiment. Seems that basically no one caters to the emissions-compliant crowd, and I understand why. You spend the same $$ and make less HP. But, nevertheless I'm willing to do that for a package that can both make awesome power and pass strict smog (which LPE's does).

Every car that leaves our shop has catalytic converters unless they were removed previously by someone else,
it's not worth it for the fines involved.
Most cars that leave our shop will also pass most states "Sniffer Tests"

I'm spraying on top of it anyway.
Let me know if you have any further questions.

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How much are you offering and what about cams, full rollers, dual springs and headers already on the Z motor??

I'm not fishing, I want a 427!!

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Please give me a call when you can and we can discuss it further.

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For $20Large I would need to see more than 467rwhp.

LPE or not, those are rather low numbers for LS6's in this day and age.

We have folks here on the forum with 440rwhp heads and cam 346ci cars. Some even higher. (unless these claims are all lies and no-one has more than 410rwhp from a heads & cam in the real world).

One would hope all that money and work would net you 500rwhp, or very, very close to 500.

JMHO.
It's always possible to get more HP by going with bigger cam, and free-er flowing heads. The downside is the powerband moves up in RPM, as does the peak power point. An extreme case is the Honda S2000. Great HP for the displacement, but pathetic bottom end. Increasing displacement increases power everywhere on the RPM curve, not just at the bottom. I bet this 427 makes a boatload of torque at 2000 RPM, compared to stock.
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