APS Twin Turbo Systems: Anyone have it, rode in one?
Whats the skinny on this set up..... It looks nicely put together and has tons of potential..... 607/593 on stock C5?
Thats my next mod when I get back from Iraq.....
Add that to a LSX on 15 psi, I should be putting down AT LEAST 1000 CamelPower
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Last edited by GR8 WHITE : 06-21-2007 at 08:39 AM.
It doesn't work like that. The turbos to efficiently make 600 rwhp and 1,000 rwhp are -NOT- the same.
What is your power goal?
700+ (I need "passing power")
Am I misled by their advertisement? If it is capable of 20 psi, and put down already high numbers.... Am I missing something? Did I NOT read the fine print?
Capable of 20 psi on what size motor? At what compression ratio (CR) ? at what RPM? There is no way it'll hold 20 PSI to redline.
I'm not picking on the APS kit by any means, I'm just trying to help you understand that no kit operates as simply as you describe.
The most I've seen out of the APS kits on big cube built motors is 600-650 rwhp. This isn't a criticism - just a restating of results that have been posted on other forums.
FWIW, I push 700 rwhp through an auto trans on pump gas without meth.
The LAPD had posted numbers sometime last year when they installed a kit on a C6. I'm sure there's numbers on a C5 kit also. Do a google search and you'll find some. Looks like a good kit.
Hey Glenn,
You know what I have done over the years, from heads and cam to superchargers to a forged 408 now with TTs.
If I had more dollars then sence like you I would do an APS system.
This is the same as a LPE system at a fraction of the cost.
The main guy that developed this for aps used to work for LPE.
I told young andy the same, got it go for it..................
Tom - I been "looking" since the day I got the Vette and never stopping "looking" since. At this point, I better put on sunglasses before I blind myself for looking too much. I need to recover from the basic rebuild. But nothing wrong with hopes & dreams that one day I will be able to run with the big dogs. The APS system looks very promising and it looks clean. Which is best, is still a tough question. There are many STS cars out there and not many APS. So, with that, it's hard to compare just yet. Ho wi syour ride doing? Set any world records down there in sunny Florida? I heard you were supposed to pay us a visit out here in Germany? Any validity to that madness?
Glenn,
My car has been down for awhile.
Talked with greg yesterday and it's close to being together.
When you start to get to my power level it's not just motor.
Driveline is a big factor and the major thing I am dealing with now is fuel.
I am talking with a company in PA that is putting together dual pump systems for fuel.
Racetronix that have been making some of the best upgraded fuel systems for our cars have made a wiring harness for 2 intank pumps. one pump is always on and the 2nd one kicks. in off a hobbs switch at whatever boost level you dial it in at.
Germany,
I would love to drop in but $$s and the fact that a passport would be very hard for me to get leaves me here in the states.
I have the APS system, and let me be the first to say...DO NOT BUY IT!! I have a 2006 coupe, and originally had the APS twin turbo installed at 6psi. Everything was fine at this point, but I soon wanted more hp so I had a built 402 installed, and the APS fuel system installed. From this point on I've had nothing but problems with the system. Thank God the guys that installed this system have been more than fair about trying to fix the problems. APS will do nothing to help, they actually have the attitude that there is no possible way anything can be wong with the products they sell. I have heard many complaints from across the country regarding this turbo system being installed with bigger built motors. After having the 402 installed I wanted to turn up the boost a little to gain more hp, but the turbos are apparently too small. I had them sent to an APS dealer in Alabama last week so hopefully he can figure out the problem or install a larger wheel. Currently the car makes 560 rwhp and 650 rwtq at 6psi.
I have the APS system, and let me be the first to say...DO NOT BUY IT!! I have a 2006 coupe, and originally had the APS twin turbo installed at 6psi. Everything was fine at this point, but I soon wanted more hp so I had a built 402 installed, and the APS fuel system installed. From this point on I've had nothing but problems with the system. Thank God the guys that installed this system have been more than fair about trying to fix the problems. APS will do nothing to help, they actually have the attitude that there is no possible way anything can be wong with the products they sell. I have heard many complaints from across the country regarding this turbo system being installed with bigger built motors. After having the 402 installed I wanted to turn up the boost a little to gain more hp, but the turbos are apparently too small. I had them sent to an APS dealer in Alabama last week so hopefully he can figure out the problem or install a larger wheel. Currently the car makes 560 rwhp and 650 rwtq at 6psi.
Wow.... Not what I was expecting...... But 650 rewtq on 6 psi is nothing to scoff at either. So what issues were you having?
It's always something with super modded cars. Costs big bucks to keep them going!
I thought I wanted big HP and it would be nice but I also like to drive my car and take it on trips time to time. For that reason I think I will stick with my lowly 440 RWHP.
The thing about having big HP is you don't ever seem to have enough! One has to ask one's self, "When is enough..enough?"
I think I will take the extra money I save on modding and start traveling. Maybe take another ocean cruise to the Eastern Caribbean.
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It's always something with super modded cars. Costs big bucks to keep them going!
I thought I wanted big HP and it would be nice but I also like to drive my car and take it on trips time to time. For that reason I think I will stick with my lowly 440 RWHP.
The thing about having big HP is you don't ever seem to have enough! One has to ask one's self, "When is enough..enough?"
I think I will take the extra money I save on modding and start traveling. Maybe take another ocean cruise to the Eastern Caribbean.
Jub - My mother used to tell me "Enough is enough" and I never seeme d to get the point then either..... But, the Carribean sounds good right about now.....
It's always something with super modded cars. Costs big bucks to keep them going!
In general you are correct, but it doesn't -have- to be that way.
I do oil changes at 3,000 miles and that's it. No BS. I've taken my car on road trips without issue, however I usually prefer to take a vehicle that has more luggage capacity.
I've gotten greedy a few times over the years where enough wasn't enough even when it clearly was.
I had a 500 rwhp blower combo that was plenty fast for the street and then replaced it with a 600 rwhp turbo combo which was more than enough which was then replaced by a 700 rwhp turbo combo, which is where I'm at now.
I'm' finally at the point where I have no interest in going faster. I have all the hardware in place if I want to lean on it, but I just don't see a need. If anything I'll slow the car down a little bit to make it more street friendly.
For me it was never about wrenching on the car for sport or tinkering with things. Now that I have the car configured just how I like I'm just enjoying driving it.
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