Love my Procharger. If I'd had the money I would have also gone LPE TT, but it was crazy money. Not really a fan of the STS setup. Looks a bit dodgy to me, all those wires hanging under the back of the car.
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MY 2003, 733RWHP, 655RWTQ, forged 383, D1SC procharger, Kooks headers, heads/cam, LG coilovers, lots of other stuff
Love my Procharger. If I'd had the money I would have also gone LPE TT, but it was crazy money. Not really a fan of the STS setup. Looks a bit dodgy to me, all those wires hanging under the back of the car.
Yeah, I too am a little skeptical of the STS setup. A lot of people seem to really like it though.
One thing I noticed on the STS dyno graphs (the ones on their site) is that they don't show any HP/TQ for low RPMS like with the stock graph. Then when the graph starts the HO/TQ is lower than the stock numbers.
This makes me think the system might be soft down low.
Yeah, I too am a little skeptical of the STS setup. A lot of people seem to really like it though.
One thing I noticed on the STS dyno graphs (the ones on their site) is that they don't show any HP/TQ for low RPMS like with the stock graph. Then when the graph starts the HO/TQ is lower than the stock numbers.
This makes me think the system might be soft down low.
pulls without any hesitation from 3K plus.......now lets be realistic here.....if you want to go fast, not just slight manuvering on the highway......didn't you always drop a gear or so to make your Z get up and go.......same holds true.....I can't comment on the <3000 rpm area.......but if I wanted to make the car kick the ass end out stock I could do it without hesitation up to 60ish, on a stock car.......without the R2's I threw on with teh STS I could only imagine where teh same actions would put the car........but not within the realm of control I'd imagine.
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STS twins.....chicks have 553/489 reasons ta dig em
okay well that was the first stage, at least the one I'll talk about..
pulls without any hesitation from 3K plus.......now lets be realistic here.....if you want to go fast, not just slight manuvering on the highway......didn't you always drop a gear or so to make your Z get up and go.......same holds true.....I can't comment on the <3000 rpm area.......but if I wanted to make the car kick the ass end out stock I could do it without hesitation up to 60ish, on a stock car.......without the R2's I threw on with teh STS I could only imagine where teh same actions would put the car........but not within the realm of control I'd imagine.
I'm not really concerned about the performance on the street because you are right. You're not going to be able to hook very well.
I like to drag race at the strip, and I want to be able to put some real slicks on. I'm just concerned about the launch when the car hooks at the strip.
I'm not really concerned about the performance on the street because you are right. You're not going to be able to hook very well.
I like to drag race at the strip, and I want to be able to put some real slicks on. I'm just concerned about the launch when the car hooks at the strip.
I destroyed a RPS clutch in short order, but it was slipping on the R2's before I even tried out the ET streets..I had about 500 miles on it with stock power and maybe another 600 of the turbos.....
I have a feeling the dealer's warranty labor is going to be the issue, the clutches have a great track record, the slave cylinder was modified....but who knows.
ecs should be putting it on a lift this week to get to the bottom of it....next clutch on the list is probably the textrailia exoskel
pulls without any hesitation from 3K plus.......now lets be realistic here.....if you want to go fast, not just slight manuvering on the highway......didn't you always drop a gear or so to make your Z get up and go.......same holds true.....I can't comment on the <3000 rpm area.......but if I wanted to make the car kick the ass end out stock I could do it without hesitation up to 60ish, on a stock car.......without the R2's I threw on with teh STS I could only imagine where teh same actions would put the car........but not within the realm of control I'd imagine.
Very good to hear. Whenever I hear this kind of stuff it gets me excited about getting my sts kit.
If money was no object I don't think anyone would dissagree that the TT setup is the way to go. There are several options for front mounted turbos that are MUCH cheaper than just dropping the car off at Lingenfelter and DOUBLING the cost of the car... A guy I know just installed a TTiX kit and is very pleased with it.
STS setup looks OK, but I can't get over how easy the turbos would be to steal... two ricers could turbo thier Hondas with one heist. The jury is out on the performance impact of having the turbos WAY back there... the dyno numbers are in and look promising, but I have yet to see much evidence of good dragstrip performance. I also don't like the fact that running mufflers is almost impossible unless you commit to cutting into the storage well for clearance.
Centrifugal has been proven and has few, if any, drawbacks compared to turbo setups if the car is to be used soley for drag racing. Turbos may offer more midrange, but midrange really doesn't matter much when you're WOT the whole length of the track. I believe centrifugal is also the cheapest by quite alot, though I'm not too familiar with STS pricing.
Enjoy!
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'02 EB/MR Z
Halltech Stngr, LGM Pro LTs, Stock Tune, 4 18" R2's on OEM Rears
11.86 @ 118, 1.82 60' (F1's), best 60' 1.80 (R2's)
80% Track, 20% Driver, 100% Z
If money was no object I don't think anyone would dissagree that the TT setup is the way to go. There are several options for front mounted turbos that are MUCH cheaper than just dropping the car off at Lingenfelter and DOUBLING the cost of the car... A guy I know just installed a TTiX kit and is very pleased with it.
STS setup looks OK, but I can't get over how easy the turbos would be to steal... two ricers could turbo thier Hondas with one heist. The jury is out on the performance impact of having the turbos WAY back there... the dyno numbers are in and look promising, but I have yet to see much evidence of good dragstrip performance. I also don't like the fact that running mufflers is almost impossible unless you commit to cutting into the storage well for clearance.
Centrifugal has been proven and has few, if any, drawbacks compared to turbo setups if the car is to be used soley for drag racing. Turbos may offer more midrange, but midrange really doesn't matter much when you're WOT the whole length of the track. I believe centrifugal is also the cheapest by quite alot, though I'm not too familiar with STS pricing.
The STS kit has made my 03Z6 into a monster. I went to Utah and met the entire team. This company has a unique, brilliant kit, and I've never been better taken care of. These guys demanded perfection and the level of customer satisfaction they strive for impressed the hell out of me. I shopped for a year, and I am another happy STS owner. If you need any further info about the kit, feel free to email me.
If money was no object I don't think anyone would dissagree that the TT setup is the way to go.
I also don't like the fact that running mufflers is almost impossible unless you commit to cutting into the storage well for clearance.
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Mufflers are actually replaced by the STS turbos themselves and the resulting sound is just what the doctor ordered. A tad louder but a nice street performance sound.
Mufflers are actually replaced by the STS turbos themselves...
Yeah, I know, but the "raw exhaust through turbine housing" sound isn't the sound everyone is looking for. I agree it sounds good at WOT, but not for cruising in my daily driver.
All I'm trying to say is, everyone wants something different with their exhaust sound, and the STS kit forces you to have it their way.
everyone wants something different with their exhaust sound, and the STS kit forces you to have it their way.
I understand. One of the attractions for me with the STS design was the lack of the inhibiting mufflers. I always knew that I wanted more than the stock muffled sound. The muffler/turbo swap is a new concept. I bought mine sight unseen (unheard). I admit the new sound is different than anything else I've ever heard. It seems to have a strange power too... it makes all human occupants grin uncontrollably.
It is possible to tune the exhaust sound some, as well as other characteristics like spool speed and hp, by selecting the turbo housing model. The new C6 housing is quieter, spools quicker, and has more mid than the previous c5 housing design.
It would also be fair to say, that now that I've had it, I would never want to give up the unique sound for any muffler or the boost that goes with it.
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