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View Poll Results: WHICH SUPERCHARGER IS BEST?
VORTECH 79 23.17%
ATI PROCHARGER 127 37.24%
MAGNACHARGER 135 39.59%
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Old 09-15-2003, 07:09 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I just bought a 2002 Z06 with a Magnusson, LG Pro long tube headers w/no cats, Vara Ram and a ported throttle body. While the car was not tuned for ultimate HP ( Ignition retarded 8 degrees so it would live in the Dallas summer heat.), it still has incredible acceleration.

As others have mentioned, there is so much torque down low, that it launches off the line and will momentarily defeat the traction control if you stand on it at around 3000 rpm in second gear. Lots of fun.

LG Motorsports did the install, very professionally I might add. Now that I have the car in cooler Missouri weather, it is even stronger as it likes the cooler air that has finally arrived here.

I spent yesterday morning modifying the fuel rail covers to fit with the Magnusson. Wasn't a very difficult job, just time consuming. The results were well worth it as the engine is pretty ugly with the individual ignition coils exposed. Look at my gallery for photos.

I have been a Porsche club member since 1978 and have had many Porsches including a 911 turbo track car. This is, by far, the fastest car I have ever owned. Very comfortable as well and I still averaged 27 mpg on the trip back here from Dallas.
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Old 09-17-2003, 01:07 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I just bought a 2002 Z06 with a Magnusson, LG Pro long tube headers w/no cats, Vara Ram and a ported throttle body. While the car was not tuned for ultimate HP ( Ignition retarded 8 degrees so it would live in the Dallas summer heat.), it still has incredible acceleration.

As others have mentioned, there is so much torque down low, that it launches off the line and will momentarily defeat the traction control if you stand on it at around 3000 rpm in second gear. Lots of fun.

LG Motorsports did the install, very professionally I might add. Now that I have the car in cooler Missouri weather, it is even stronger as it likes the cooler air that has finally arrived here.

I spent yesterday morning modifying the fuel rail covers to fit with the Magnusson. Wasn't a very difficult job, just time consuming. The results were well worth it as the engine is pretty ugly with the individual ignition coils exposed. Look at my gallery for photos.

I have been a Porsche club member since 1978 and have had many Porsches including a 911 turbo track car. This is, by far, the fastest car I have ever owned. Very comfortable as well and I still averaged 27 mpg on the trip back here from Dallas.
Welcome to the site, Jer and CONGRATS on your new Z!!!!!

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Old 09-17-2003, 01:12 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Welcome to the site, Jer and CONGRATS on your new Z!!!!!

Yes welcome...I have close to the same setup as you and mentioned in another post that my fuel rail covers aren't installed yet and last night at a car show that I was attending, some guys wanted to see under the hood...I showed them but was crying about how ugly and naked it looked without the covers...they like it anyway.
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Old 09-23-2003, 04:19 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Wait till January when Magnuson will have a Intercooler with Z06 program for the computer.
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Old 09-23-2003, 07:59 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Wait till January when Magnuson will have a Intercooler with Z06 program for the computer.
Amen! I am waiting for this too arrive. But I do hate to start doing serious mods to my 2003....its still so young! lol
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Old 09-24-2003, 09:33 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Which Superchargers Best?

I always get weirded out by the question of "which one's the best". Which air intake is the best or which headers are the best or which cam etc, etc.

Seems to me we should be asking "which product would you not purchase and for what reason?"

It seems to me from reading a lot of posts over the last several months that the folks who bought the Magnusson are happy, the folks who bought the Procharger are happy and the folks who bought the Vortech are happy. That tells me that all three are pretty good products...how 'bout you?

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How bout the one thats intercooled for endurance on the road track/racing conditions? SC's are nice and all but I'm partial to Turbos. To me the best SC is the one thats intercooled. That is buy and implement the one thats using the best technology combo. No I do not know which one that is - but I'm sure Mike does.

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Old 09-25-2003, 08:56 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Amen! I am waiting for this too arrive. But I do hate to start doing serious mods to my 2003....its still so young! lol
Just do it. (Nike commercial end)
PS: Nike did not endorse this post in anyway - but if they could sell SC's - they'd sell the ones with the intercoolers.

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Old 09-25-2003, 09:19 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I agree with you in theory, that the intercooled SC should be a better option and should in theory run cooler. I have not heard of many ATI cars that have been able to sustain lap after lap road race conditions without overheating.

Now, maybe they have their boost dialed up to make more than 500 RWHP so that could be one factor and there could be many others. I also have a LPE radiator/oil cooler combo. All I can do is tell you my experience and leave it up to the ATI guys to tell theirs. You can view my car in a road race situation on the following link:

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Old 09-25-2003, 09:22 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I agree with you in theory, that the intercooled SC should be a better option and should in theory run cooler. I have not heard of many ATI cars that have been able to sustain lap after lap road race conditions without overheating.

Now, maybe they have their boost dialed up to make more than 500 RWHP so that could be one factor and there could be many others. I also have a LPE radiator/oil cooler combo. All I can do is tell you my experience and leave it up to the ATI guys to tell theirs. You can view my car in a road race situation on the following link:

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I have driven hard roadracing sessions topping 160mph on the straightaways and have had no heating problems whatsoever.
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I have driven hard roadracing sessions topping 160mph on the straightaways and have had no heating problems whatsoever.
Mike is this true? Are you refusing an extra 50hp and better performance? No - HECK NO in fact. (Yes I believe you, but backing down to more HP - did hell freeze over?) j/k

Was only saying what I heard/read regarding SC's and endurance - they don't match Turbos. I know the major 3 SC's are all coming out with IC'ed SC's - but of course none of their systems are bad - just the IC'ed versions are better - for instance the main reason the IC is there - PREVENTING EXCESS HEAT UNDER STRESS LOAD.

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Mike is this true? Are you refusing an extra 50hp and better performance? No - HECK NO in fact. (Yes I believe you, but backing down to more HP - did hell freeze over?) j/k

Was only saying what I heard/read regarding SC's and endurance - they don't match Turbos. I know the major 3 SC's are all coming out with IC'ed SC's - but of course none of their systems are bad - just the IC'ed versions are better - for instance the main reason the IC is there - PREVENTING EXCESS HEAT UNDER STRESS LOAD.

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My Vortech is air to water aftercooled. The aftercooler gets cool to the touch, even on a warm day. I haven't had it long enough to know how it will do on a road course, but I intend to find out. I decided right off the bat when I decided to go the SC route, that I wasn't going to baby the car. If it breaks, it'll just have to break. I'll go Mike's route if it blows up!
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That is what I like to hear, men pushing their toys and the Z06 spanking the field. Mike what course did you run at? Were there any other cars that were in you league in straight line performance? How much boost were you running that day approx. equating to ? RWHP.

Did you run Hoosiers or street tires? I would think that with your power you might have a hard time getting on the power out of the corners..

Even more impressive is that you had the stock radiator in. Your tune must be dead on! What peak water and oil temps did you see?

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Old 09-26-2003, 07:53 PM   #59 (permalink)
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I have had my share of problems with this thing, but it sure is a friggin' beast now that it's dialed in. A whole lot of fun! Magnacharger really cannot touch the big numbers attainable with an ATI. But, the big numbers may yield a big blown up bottom end if you're not careful!

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I have had my share of problems with this thing, but it sure is a friggin' beast now that it's dialed in. A whole lot of fun! Magnacharger really cannot touch the big numbers attainable with an ATI. But, the big numbers may yield a big blown up bottom end if you're not careful!
You're right AWSM,
I figure I'm at the edge of safety with the stock internals. I'm going to degree my cam and have my heads done in the spring. I'm happy with my peak hp numbers, but there's room to bring up the torque.
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