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GM Bulletin for rear end chatter number?

What is the correct amount of lube oil to add and type of lube oil to add to the C6 Z06 rear end. Say something from Auto Zone etc. Also how many bottles of additive for a flush?

I've got lots of 75-90 Valvoline synthetic around.

Anyone know the GM Bulletin number?
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Re: GM Bulletin for rear end chatter number?

2005 - 2007: Service Bulletin: Rear Axle Clunk and/or Chatter Type Noise on Turns

Subject: Rear Axle Clunk and/or Chatter Type Noise on Turns (Drain/Refill Rear Differential Fluid and Add Specified Limited-Slip Axle Additive)
Number: #07-04-20-002
Date: (04/16/2007)
Models: 2004-2007 Cadillac XLR (Including V-Series and Export)
2005-2007 Chevrolet Corvette (Including Z06 and Export)

Condition
Some customers may comment on a clunk and/or chatter type noise from the rear of the vehicle while making turns.

Cause
This condition may be caused by slip/stick of the posi-traction clutch plates due to insufficient limited-slip axle additive. As plates slip and stick, a jumping or jerking feel occurs accompanied by a clunk noise.

Correction
Important: DO NOT remove the differential cover from the rear or the two sides. It is not necessary to flush the old fluid from the differential.

Drain and refill the rear differential fluid using the procedure listed below. Add the increased amount of limited-slip axle additive specified below.

89021677 (89021678 In Canada)
Synthetic Axle Lubricant
Quantity: 2
(3 for Z06 and Export)

1052358 (992694 In Canada)
Limited-Slip Axle Additive
Quantity: 2
General Motors bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, not a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform those technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, do not assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See a General Motors dealer servicing your brand of General Motors vehicle for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.
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Re: GM Bulletin for rear end chatter number?

I went w/ Amsoil fluid and one bottle of limited slip addative because Amsoil has some in their formula. It worked fine w/ no chatter. When you drop the fluid be careful w/ the little clip on the lower cooler line as you will need it when you pop it back in and then make sure it snaps on right. Use a flashlight and check that it is clipped on right. Good luck Jim
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2005 - 2007: Service Bulletin: Rear Axle Clunk and/or Chatter Type Noise on Turns

Subject: Rear Axle Clunk and/or Chatter Type Noise on Turns (Drain/Refill Rear Differential Fluid and Add Specified Limited-Slip Axle Additive)
Number: #07-04-20-002
Date: (04/16/2007)
Models: 2004-2007 Cadillac XLR (Including V-Series and Export)
2005-2007 Chevrolet Corvette (Including Z06 and Export)

Condition
Some customers may comment on a clunk and/or chatter type noise from the rear of the vehicle while making turns.

Cause
This condition may be caused by slip/stick of the posi-traction clutch plates due to insufficient limited-slip axle additive. As plates slip and stick, a jumping or jerking feel occurs accompanied by a clunk noise.

Correction
Important: DO NOT remove the differential cover from the rear or the two sides. It is not necessary to flush the old fluid from the differential.

Drain and refill the rear differential fluid using the procedure listed below. Add the increased amount of limited-slip axle additive specified below.

89021677 (89021678 In Canada)
Synthetic Axle Lubricant
Quantity: 2
(3 for Z06 and Export)

1052358 (992694 In Canada)
Limited-Slip Axle Additive
Quantity: 2
General Motors bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, not a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform those technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, do not assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See a General Motors dealer servicing your brand of General Motors vehicle for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.
Getting this ID# 2048181 done which replaces the old Bulletin 07-04-20-2002A, flushing out and replenish w/new oil and 2 bottles of friction mod oil .They only use as stated Dextron LS gear oil P/N 88862624. No additives. It's supposed to stop the pounding often heard and blamed on the tranny when shifting from 1st to 2nd under low lads also. I had to look this up but see you found the same info I did. All the GM service dept. should be aware of this change because when I called I told the service manager here locally he wasn't. I gave him the numbers to check with the service dept. and they had the scoop just no one had said anything due to lack of Z06's to work on. Thanks for your time and the info anyways.
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Re: GM Bulletin for rear end chatter number?

Latest axle chatter TSB
Date: 01-09-2008
TSB: #07-04-20-002A
Document ID# 2048181

2005 - 2008 Chevrolet Corvette

Subject: Rear Axle Clunk and/or Chatter Type Noise on Turns
(Drain/Refill Rear Differential Fluid) #07-04-20-002A - (01/09/2008)

Models: 2004-2008 Cadillac XLR (Including V-Series and Export)

2005-2008 Chevrolet Corvette (Including Z06 and Export)

This bulletin is being revised to change the fluid recommendation and to remove the requirement of adding friction modifier. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 07-04-20-002 (Section 04 -- Driveline/Axle).

Condition:
Some customers may comment on a clunk and/or chatter type noise from the rear of the vehicle while making turns.

Cause:
This condition may be caused by slip/stick of the posi-traction clutch plates due to insufficient limited-slip axle additive. As plates slip and stick, a jumping or jerking feel occurs accompanied by a clunk noise.

Correction:
Important: DO NOT remove the differential cover from the rear or the two sides. It is not necessary to flush the old fluid from the differential.

Drain and refill the rear differential fluid using the procedure listed below.

Draining Procedure:
Raise and support the vehicle. Clean any dirt from around the differential drain plug. If not equipped with a differential cooler, remove the drain plug (1) and washer (2) from the differential.

If equipped with a differential cooler: 4.1. Using a bent tip screwdriver, remove the quick connect fitting retaining ring (3) from the quick connect fitting (4) and discard the retaining ring.

4.2. Remove the differential cooler inlet pipe from the differential nut.

Drain the fluid.

Filling Procedure:
If not equipped with a differential cooler, install the drain plug (1) and washer (2) to the differential. Tighten the differential drain plug to 35 N•m (26 lb ft).

If equipped with a differential cooler: 2.1. Install a new retaining ring.

2.2. Connect the differential cooler pump inlet pipe (2) to the differential. A distinct snap should be heard or felt when assembling the cooler pipe to the fitting.

2.3. To ensure the cooler line is properly installed, give the cooler pipe a gentle pull.

Clean any dirt from around the differential fill plug. Remove the fill plug and washer from the differential.

Important: DO NOT add any limited-slip additive (friction modifier). With this new fluid (Dexron LS Gear Oil 75W-90) it is no longer required to add friction modifier. If friction modifier is added, it will cause the fluid to lose some of it's friction reducing properties as well as reducing seal life.

Fill the differential with the new DEXRON LS gear oil, P/N 88862624 (Canadian P/N 88862625). Refer to the table listed below for lubrication specifications.

Check the fluid level to ensure it is even with the bottom of the fill plug hole to no lower than 6 mm (0.25 in) below the opening. Install the fill plug and washer to the differential. Tighten the differential fill plug to 35 N•m (26 lb ft).

Important: Steps 8-13 are for vehicles equipped with the differential cooling system. For vehicles not equipped with the cooling system, proceed to step 14.

Raise the vehicle so the wheels are about a foot off the floor. Make sure the wheels can spin freely without obstruction from the hoist or any nearby items. Start the vehicle and put the transmission in second gear. Slowly accelerate to 10 mph and hold this speed for one minute. Turn the vehicle off. Raise the vehicle. Check the fluid level in the differential. Add fluid until the recommended level is reached. Lower the vehicle.

Once the differential fluid has been changed, the vehicle must be driven in 8-10 tight figure eight maneuvers to heat the fluid and allow the fluid to be worked into the clutch plates.

Lubrication Specifications Application

2004-2005 XLR (Including Export) and 2005 Corvette (Non Export)
1.72 liters
1.85 quarts

2006-2008 XLR (Including V-Series and Export) and 2006-2008 Corvette (Non Z06)(Non Export)
2.0 liters
2.11 quarts

2005 Corvette Export
1.88 liters
1.99 quarts

2006-2008 Corvette Export (Non Z06)
2.16 liters
2.28 quarts

2006-2008 Corvette Z06
2.75 liters
2.91 quarts

Parts Information:
Description: DEXRON LS Gear Oil
Part Numbers:
88862624 (US-1 Quart)
88862625 (Canada-1 Liter)

Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation: F9709*
Description: Drain & Refill Rear Axle Fluid
Labor Time: 0.6 hr

* This is a unique labor operation number for bulletin use only. It will not be published in the Labor Time Guide.

Copyright General Motors Corporation. All Rights Reserved.

Document ID# 2048181
2005 Chevrolet Corvette

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Previous axle chatter TSB

Date: 4-16-2007
TSB: #07-04-20-002
Document ID# 1961528

Subject: Rear Axle Clunk and/or Chatter Type Noise on Turns (Drain/Refill Rear Differential Fluid and Add Specified Limited-Slip Axle Additive)

Models:
2004-2007 Cadillac XLR (Including V-Series and Export)
2005-2007 Chevrolet Corvette (Including Z06 and Export)

Condition:
Some customers may comment on a clunk and/or chatter type noise from the rear of the vehicle while making turns.

Cause:
This condition may be caused by slip/stick of the posi-traction clutch plates due to insufficient limited-slip axle additive. As plates slip and stick, a jumping or jerking feel occurs accompanied by a clunk noise.

Correction:
Important: DO NOT remove the differential cover from the rear or the two sides. It is not necessary to flush the old fluid from the differential.

Drain and refill the rear differential fluid using the procedure listed below. Add the increased amount of limited-slip axle additive specified below.

Raise and suitably support the vehicle.
Clean any dirt from around the differential drain plug.
Remove the drain plug and washer from the differential.
Drain the fluid.
Install the drain plug and washer to the differential.
Tighten the differential drain plug to 35 Nm (26 lb ft).

Clean any dirt from around the differential fill plug.
Remove the fill plug and washer from the differential.
Important: Prior to adding the limited-slip axle additive, the bottle MUST be shaken vigorously for at least 1 minute to mix the additive thoroughly, then immediately poured into the differential.

Add 237 ml (8.0 oz) limited-slip axle additive, P/N 1052358
(Canadian P/N 992694).

Fill the differential with synthetic axle lubricant, P/N 89021677
(Canadian P/N 89021678).

Check the fluid level to ensure it is even with the bottom of the fill plug hole to no lower than 6 mm (0.25 in) below the opening.
Install the fill plug and washer to the differential.
Tighten the differential fill plug to 35 Nm (26 lb ft).

Lower the vehicle.
Once the differential fluid has been changed, the vehicle must be driven in 8-10 tight figure eight maneuvers to heat the fluid and allow the additive to be worked into the clutch plates.

Part #: 89021677 (89021678 In Canada)
Description: Synthetic Axle Lubricant
Quantity: 2 (3 for Z06 and Export)

Part #: 1052358 (992694 In Canada)
Descrption: Limited-Slip Axle Additive
Quantity: 2

For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:
Labor Operation: F9709*
Description: Drain & Refill Rear Axle Fluid
Labor Time: 0.6 hr

*This is a unique labor operation number for bulletin use only. It will not be published in the Labor Time Guide.



Document ID# 1961528
2006 Chevrolet Corvette



Previous TSB - 12/06/06

Subject: Rear Axle Chatter Shudder On Turns - keywords bind differential #PIP3559F - (12/06/2006)

Models: 2004 - 2007 Cadillac XLR
2006-2007 Cadillac XLR-V
1999 - 2007 Chevrolet Corvette, Corvette Z06

The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

Condition/Concern:
Rear axle chatter or shudder on turns on Chevrolet Corvette and Cadillac XLR.

Recommendation/Instructions:
Flush and fill the rear axle with synthetic axle lubricant GM P/N 89021677 (Canadian P/N 89021678) and appropriate amount of the friction modifier additive P/N 01052358 (in Canada 992694). See fluid amounts listed below.

Note 1: In some cases it has shown that a second flush procedure on a second repair visit will correct the chatter/shudder concern prior to replacement of the clutch packs.

Note 2: To properly flush the rear differential remove the left differential cover and get all of the old fluid out off the differential, wipe out the residue replace the cover o-ring and then reinstall the cover and fill with the appropriate amount of fluid and friction modifier additive.

If the complaint or the condition persists after the flush and fill, replace the right and left rear axle clutch packs following published service procedures.

After clutch pack replacement use synthetic axle lubricant GM P/N 89021677 (Canadian P/N 89021678). and the appropriate amount of friction modifier additive P/N 01052358 (in Canada 992694). See fluid amounts listed below.

Note 3: PRIOR TO INSTALLING THE FRICTION MODIFIER ADDITIVE FOR EITHER OF THE ABOVE REPAIRS THE BOTTLE MUST BE SHAKEN VIGOROUSLY FOR AT LEAST 1 MINUTE TO MIX THE ADDITIVE THOROUGHLY.

Once the axle fluid has been changed the car must be driven in 8 - 10 SLOW figure eights to work the fluid between the clutch plates.

Fluid capacity:
Model Year
Model
Differential Lube
Friction Modifier

1999-2005
Corvette ALL
1.69 qt (1.6L)
4 oz. (118 ml)

2006-2007
Base Corvette
1.95 qt (1.85L)
5 oz. (148 ml)

2006-2007
Corvette Z06
2.70 qt (2.55L)
6.4 oz. (190 ml)

Note 4: Export vehicles use 2.01 l (2.12 qt) synthetic axle lubricant GM P/N 89021677 (Canadian P/N 89021678) and approximately 150 ml (5.1 oz) limited-slip differential lubricant additive GM P/N 1052358 (Canadian P/N 992694).

Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.

-----------------------------------------------

Previous TSB - 10/13/06

Subject: Rear Axle Chatter Shudder On Turns - keywords bind differential
#PIP3559C - (10/13/2006)

Document ID# 1866944
2006 Chevrolet Corvette

2004 - 2007 Cadillac XLR
2006 - 2007 Cadillac XLR-V
1999 - 2007 Chevrolet Corvette, Corvette Z06

The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

Condition/Concern: Rear axle chatter or shudder on turns on Chevrolet Corvette and Cadillac XLR.

Recommendation/Instructions:
If this is the first complaint for this condition flush and fill the rear axle with synthetic axle lubricant GM P/N 12378261 (P/N 12378261 has been replaced with P/N 89021677), (Canadian P/N 10953455) and appropriate amount of the friction modifier additive P/N 01052358 (in Canada 992694). See fluid amounts listed below.

Note 1: To properly flush the rear differential remove the cover and get all of the old fluid out off the differential, wipe out the residue and then reinstall the cover and replace the fluid and additive.

If this is a repeat complaint or the condition persists after the flush and fill, replace the right and left rear axle clutch packs following published service procedures.

After clutch pack replacement use synthetic axle lubricant GM P/N 12378261 (Canadian P/N 10953455). and the appropriate amount of friction modifier additive P/N 01052358 (in Canada 992694). See fluid amounts listed below.

Note 2: PRIOR TO INSTALLING THE FRICTION MODIFIER ADDITIVE FOR EITHER OF THE ABOVE REPAIRS THE BOTTLE MUST BE SHAKEN VIGOROUSLY FOR AT LEAST 1 MINUTE TO MIX THE ADDITIVE THOROUGHLY.

Once the axle fluid has been changed the car must be driven in 8 - 10 SLOW figure eights to work the fluid between the clutch plates.

Fluid capacity:

1999-2005
Corvette ALL
Differential Lube: 1.69 qt (1.6L)
Friction Modifier: 4 oz. (118 ml)

2006-2007
Base Corvette
Differential Lube: 1.95 qt (1.85L)
Friction Modifier: 5 oz. (148 ml)

2006-2007
Corvette Z06
Differential Lube: 2.70 qt (2.55L)
Friction Modifier: 6.4 oz. (190 ml)

Note 3: Export vehicles use 2.01 l (2.12 qt) synthetic axle lubricant GM P/N 12378261 (Canadian P/N 10953455) and approximately 150 ml (5.1 oz) limited-slip differential lubricant additive GM P/N 1052358 (Canadian P/N 992694).

Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.



Previous axle chatter TSB: 9/08/06

Subject: Rear Axle Chatter Shudder on Turns - keywords bind differential #PIP3559A - (09/08/2006)

Models: 1999-2007 Chevrolet Corvette
2004-2006 Cadillac XLR
2006-2007 Cadillac XLR-V

This PI is being superseded to update recommendations, models and years.
Please discard PIP3559.

The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

Condition/Concern:
Rear axle chatter or shudder on turns on Chevrolet Corvette and Cadillac XLR.

Recommendation/Instructions:
If this is the first complaint for this condition flush and fill the rear axle with mineral based lubricant P/N 89021669 (in Canada 89021670) gear lube and 4 ounces of the friction modifier additive P/N 01052358 (in Canada 992694).

If this is a repeat complaint or the condition persists after the flush and fill, replace the right and left rear axle clutch packs following published service procedures.

After clutch pack replacement use 1.6 l (1.69 qt) synthetic axle lubricant GM P/N 12378261 (Canadian P/N 10953455). and 4 ounces of the friction modifier additive P/N 01052358 (in Canada 992694).

Note: 2006 Z06 equipped vehicles require 2.55 l (2.70 qt) synthetic axle lubricant GM P/N 12378261 (Canadian P/N 10953455) and approximately 190 ml (6.4 oz) limited-slip differential lubricant additive GM P/N 1052358 (Canadian P/N 992694).

Note 2: Export vehicles use 2.01 l (2.12 qt) synthetic axle lubricant GM P/N 12378261 (Canadian P/N 10953455) and approximately 150 ml (5.1 oz) limited-slip differential lubricant additive GM P/N 1052358 (Canadian P/N 992694).

Once the axle fluid has been changed the car must be driven in 8 - 10 SLOW figure eights to work the fluid between the clutch plates.

Note 3: PRIOR TO INSTALLING THE FRICTION MODIFIER ADDITIVE FOR EITHER OF THE ABOVE REPAIRS THE BOTTLE MUST BE SHAKEN VIGOROUSLY FOR AT LEAST 1 MINUTE TO MIX THE ADDITIVE THOROUGHLY.
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Thank you IT L GO. I just had the service performed today under warranty on my 07. I never knew what the "noise" was when circling the parking garage until I read your post. Noise is now gone. Just an example of more great info on the Forum from the people who bring a vast quantity of information to all of us. I appreciate it.
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my brothers 06 z makes a noise in 1st under hard acc and in 2nd sometimes but only under hard take offs we went to the drag strip 2 weeks ago and at 1st the car wasnt to bad I drove his the last race and it sounded bad but onlt in 1st and his z is compleatly stock I had a 07 last year with 9k on it and it was stock and it did the same thing? I just got my new 07 and it has cam headers linkinfelter intake and some head work and my rearend is perfect?I dont know if the guy that had mine last did something to the rear but with more hp in my new one I would think so. ive only ever drivin 3 c6 zo6s and both the stock ones made this noise.has anyone else had this under hard acc all I herd from u guys is around turns u hear this? thanks
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Diff chatter can occur when the two rear wheels spin at different speeds and the clutch packs inside the diff chatter vice slide. This normally occurs in tight, slow speed turns where the outside wheel turns a lot faster than the inside wheel, but it can happen in hard launches if one tire looses grip before the other and starts to spin.

I've had numerous positive reviews from those C6 Z06 owners that use the AMSOIL Severe Gear 75w90 (product code SVGQT) with about 1-1.5 bottles of AMSOIL Slip Lock Additive (product code ADABA). Ordering info in my sig.
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