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Old 10-08-2007, 07:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Preformance Build Center

I took a Tour with my engine Builder (Charley)today. Let me tell you that those guys know their business. I have allot more knowledge about my 427 and I want you to know that the fastest ones are built by Charley.
As you walk in there is the Z06 Forum Banner and all those engines. You have to tour this place.
A special tThanks to Donna for setting it all up with me and my engine Builder.

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Old 10-08-2007, 10:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Fred, and welcome to the best Vette site!

The PBC has an open house each year. That Z06Vette banner was donated to me several years ago by one of our members and I in turn gave it to the PBC Manager to use where he saw fit.....Glad to see they hung it in the assembly area for all visitors to see.
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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My wife and I just returned from an 8000 mile trip around the U.S. in our '07 Z and early last month we drove a few hundred extra miles for a tour of the LS7 engine plant. Thanks to a lot of effort on the part of Barry Dennis who so kindly fit us in on a personalized tour, we spent about three full hours seeing what goes on in this plant. It far exceeded my expectations, and I would highly recommend a similar tour for any Z06 owner. Anyone who is halfway familiar with engine building will be extremely impressed with this state of the art build center.

A few months ago another "notorious" forum member was poo-pooing the LS7, implying that it wasn't really a "hand built" engine and no different from any other production engine. But anyone touring the PBC will see the obvious detailed work, checking, and testing that goes into building the LS7. When our engines leave that plant, we can expect a VERY high quality product.

Our tour guide was Bob Vernier, who was gracious and knowledgable and spent about three hours patiently answering the hundreds of questions I had for him. We also met Tim Schag, the Plant Manager, who was equally gracious, and many of the other engine builders we have read about on this forum. (Here's a link to the PBC poster with most of the builders:
http://www.kawal.net/poster.htm) I promised Tim not to say anything about the new LS9 engines that recently went through the build line.

Some of the more interesting things I saw was the testing procedures during and after assembly of the LS7s. The leak down test brings out any problems and I was a bit surprised at the number of engines in the "repair" bay. If any little thing is out of the ordinary, the engine ends up in this section, where the problem is solved to insure the engine is perfect before it leaves the PBC. Also interesting was the balancing procedure where the engine is first fired up on natural gas and spun to around 1500 rpm and checked for balance within specifications. The clutch and pressure plate are bolted on at this point and small weights are added to the harmonic balancer and/or flywheel to get the balance within tolerance. A few engines are "freebies", requiring no weights at all. Some may be out of tolerance to require replacing the flywheel with another before balancing.

I also found it interesting that Z06 production is so successful that the LS7s are keeping the plant busy, but Cadillac sales are poor so the LC3 supercharged Northstars, even though an excellent engine, are being built in very small quantities. The two LS7 lines are full, but the Cad lines were empty on our tour day. Some of the builders build both engines and the four cam Cad engines are a bit more fun to build, says Bruce Elam, who builds both.

I was very pleasantly surprised at the personal treatment we received. Every question was answered in detail. At the end, Tim said if I ever had any problems whatsoever, I should immediately contact him and get the problem resolved.

On the tour day, a group of Harvard Business School people was previously touring, so they had on display not only a new Jetstream Blue Z06, but also a Black Cadillac XLRV and a nice looking metallic gray Cadillac STSV. Plus we got to drive a brand new 6 liter Hybrid GMC Yukon that will be announced soon.

A couple of days after the PBC tour, we drove to Bowling Green for a tour of the Corvette Assembly Plant. We had been on this tour before, and it's fun too, but nothing will compare to the PBC tour we had. Every Z06 owner should try to see this plant. A great day! And again, many thanks to Barry, Bob, Tim, and the other engine builders for their time they took with us. It's like a big family there, building us an excellent product.
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That is awesome!!! Bob Vernier built my 08's powerplant
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Old 04-13-2008, 05:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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kawal: did you find out if they actually use "special break-in oil" that is not the stated Mobil 1 5w-30 factory fill?
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Old 04-13-2008, 06:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The PBC in Wixom, MI does not use any special break-in oil. The engines are filled with the recommended Mobil 1 5W-30. In fact, Mobil 1 synthetic oil is the only lube used during assembly, including the cam, bearings, or anything else requiring assembly lube. It's stored at each build station in ketchup bottles.

The engines are then shipped to Johnson Matthey Testing in Taylor, Michigan, where they're subjected to a 20-minute "hot" test: 10 minutes of no-load "break in" and 10 minutes of loaded operation. Afterwards, they are returned to the PBC and then to the Corvette assembly plant in Bowling Green, KY.

Furthermore, and according to Henry Rose of the PBC...

"I am here to only tell the facts about the LS7. I can say over the last 2.5 years building the LS7 engines there has not been any special parts put in any production engine. ALL Parts come to us in bulk, we then pick them at random from the container and assemble them. All Engines (Crate and Plant) have to go to an off site for hot test. They are run up to 4200 rpm’s where HP and Torque among other things are recorded. High or low will be returned to us. We have NEVER received any with High HP or Torque engines. These engines are run with the same controller so the tune is the same for all engines. I think the place where the testing is done there are 2 bay stalls that are used. I have done it all at PBC from leader to builder and everything in the middle."

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