Road and Track finally gets a Ferrari to beat corvette in a comparison test this mont
Ferrari finally beats corvette ! The 249 thousand dollar F430 finally edged out the corvette in a comparison test.. IN performance no less!
Of course the test included the Aston Martin Vantage V8, the Audi R8, the Ferrari F430 and the corvette Z51 w/npp
Road and Tracks favorite V8 motor was the LS3 in this comparo but the favorite V8 sports car in the comparo was not the 56K thousand dollar Corvette Z51 but rather the 249 thousand dollar Ferrari..
What a surprise...?
Ferrari wouldn't allow the test to go on if the C6 Z06 was included so Road and Track tested the C6 Z51 and the funny part is the C6 coupe almost.. and I mean almost won!
The aston martin is a rolling piece of artwork yet its 380hp was no match up in this comparison so it came in fourth..
The Audi R8 was close but no cigar and came in third....
The Vette rolled in at 2nd and the
249 thousand ferrari came in first..
I'm laughing because its pretty impressive company to be keeping..
I can't imagine why the magazine didn't pick the C6 Z06 other than the fact they wanted something other than a corvette to win a comparision test..
Just shooting the breeze and I have yet to find a download of the article that was in this months R & T mag..
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Ok, I was hoping that's what you'd say. I wouldn't want to think you've lost it. I agree, it is a little odd they'd pick a Z51 vs. a Z06. Then again, that comparo has been done so many times....
Just think, even though the Ferrari 'won' it almost makes it look worse than had a Z06 been used. Barely winning against the 2nd string is worse than losing against the 1st.
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Ferrari's have always made more noise than the speed indicates they should be making (when driving one). Outside, they're fast, but the sound is grating on my ears. Except on tv, where they sound great.
The best sounding car is by far the C5 and C6-R's. You can hear them anywhere on the track and know exactly where they are.
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While that is impressive, I think the comparison is COMPLETELY missing the point.
If I can afford a 430 (I mean REALLY afford it, not just the monthly payments) then I'm not gonna say "Oh hey the C6Z is faster maybe I should get that instead".
Thanks for sharing JB. Interesting. Not unexpected, but still interesting.
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Originally Posted by AtlBlkZ06
While that is impressive, I think the comparison is COMPLETELY missing the point.
If I can afford a 430 (I mean REALLY afford it, not just the monthly payments) then I'm not gonna say "Oh hey the C6Z is faster maybe I should get that instead".
You're right. I doubt many people cross-shop these two particular models, despite being comparative in performance. But, as any Ferrari owner will tell you, it's not all about being the fastest...whatever that means.
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You're right. I doubt many people cross-shop these two particular models, despite being comparative in performance. But, as any Ferrari owner will tell you, it's not all about being the fastest...whatever that means. [/quote]
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Re: Road and Track finally gets a Ferrari to beat corvette in a comparison test this
What I personally found amusing was that road and track purposely did not use a Corvette Z06 with its V8 engine.
The article's premise was great v8 sports cars.. (eliminating the gallardo and porsche 911 twin turbo) yet the article chose not to include the C6 Z06 with its lighter weight, 505hp V8 engine and 70 odd thousand dollar price tag.
As a person who just bought the C6 z51 with 436 hp I was entertained by the article and it in fact chose the LS3 as the best motor out of the four exotics which is high praise indeed.
I found the comparision test of the ultra expensive ferrari, Aston and Audi R8 with the base z51 coupe versus the C6 Z06 as ODD
How about you? Don't you think its odd they would chose a C6 coupe z51 as great as it is.....is no Z06 so why wouldn't they test that model?
Too tough a competition for the exotics or did they just want a corvette comparision test where the numbers didn't show the corvette as being number one...?
Are they saving the Corvette ZR1 tests to announce it reasserts the corvette as once again....the best of the best
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it's not all about being the fastest...whatever that means.
What it means is several things: There is of course the often mentioned status symbol factor, with the fact they cost what they do certainly being a part of that. In addition, there is the exclusivity of owning an expensive, exotic car. However, it's more than that, as performance alone is not the only thing that makes a great car. Reliability, although I'm not saying Ferrari's are particularly reliable, is another factor. In addition, consistency and the way the car feels being two of the most important aspects.
Take for example what Jan Magnussen said about the Z06 after setting the Nurburgring time: he stated he would not have wanted to drive it another meter. One has to ask why would he say that, especially considering he was under the employment of GM. And he has not been the only one to point out flaws in the cars handling for example. The fact is, there are cars that, although they may not be as fast, are more consistent, more predictable, and perhaps more reliable when pushed to their limits, as is the case with track use.
The Porsche GT3 is often compared to the Z06 in this respect and again, although not quite as fast, is more reliable and consistent lap after lap. Take for instance one may feel a greater sense of precision; a better sense of what the car is doing at the moment as felt in the steering. Although some of these things are subjective assessments, most evaluations and comparisons remain consistent in these claims between different cars. That is, the same things are said about certain cars time after time, even across generations of the same make and model.
So in the end, it is those things that determine a cars worth, and not only in the monetary sense. This is not to mention other factors such as the dealer service experience, because as we all know, GM service is often not on par with some other makes.
The Corvette Z06 and in fact all Corvettes are great cars and a lot of fun to drive. They are comfortable, ergonomic, have great cargo volume for a sports car and even get relatively fantastic fuel mileage. There is a lot to like about them, including intangibles such as their production and racing heritage. Not to mention they perform in many respects equal to or even better than some of the worlds best. Moreover, when one factors in cost, they are indeed the "best bang for the buck".
Therefore, given the above, it's clear to see that even a sports car, or any car for that matter that is marketed as being a performance car, is not "all about being the fastest".
What it means is several things: There is of course the often mentioned status symbol factor, with the fact they cost what they do certainly being a part of that. In addition, there is the exclusivity of owning an expensive, exotic car. However, it's more than that, as performance alone is not the only thing that makes a great car. Reliability, although I'm not saying Ferrari's are particularly reliable, is another factor. In addition, consistency and the way the car feels being two of the most important aspects.
Take for example what Jan Magnussen said about the Z06 after setting the Nurburgring time: he stated he would not have wanted to drive it another meter. One has to ask why would he say that, especially considering he was under the employment of GM. And he has not been the only one to point out flaws in the cars handling for example. The fact is, there are cars that, although they may not be as fast, are more consistent, more predictable, and perhaps more reliable when pushed to their limits, as is the case with track use.
The Porsche GT3 is often compared to the Z06 in this respect and again, although not quite as fast, is more reliable and consistent lap after lap. Take for instance one may feel a greater sense of precision; a better sense of what the car is doing at the moment as felt in the steering. Although some of these things are subjective assessments, most evaluations and comparisons remain consistent in these claims between different cars. That is, the same things are said about certain cars time after time, even across generations of the same make and model.
So in the end, it is those things that determine a cars worth, and not only in the monetary sense. This is not to mention other factors such as the dealer service experience, because as we all know, GM service is often not on par with some other makes.
The Corvette Z06 and in fact all Corvettes are great cars and a lot of fun to drive. They are comfortable, ergonomic, have great cargo volume for a sports car and even get relatively fantastic fuel mileage. There is a lot to like about them, including intangibles such as their production and racing heritage. Not to mention they perform in many respects equal to or even better than some of the worlds best. Moreover, when one factors in cost, they are indeed the "best bang for the buck".
Therefore, given the above, it's clear to see that even a sports car, or any car for that matter that is marketed as being a performance car, is not "all about being the fastest".
Jesus, I didn't need to be lectured! I was saying that in a tongue-in-cheek manner. You know...
Tongue-in-cheek is a term that refers to a style of humour in which things are said only half seriously, or in a subtly mocking way.
Origin of the term...
This phrase clearly alludes to the facial expression created by putting one's tongue in one's cheek. This induces a wink which has long been an indication that what is being said is to be taken with a "grain of salt". It may have been used to suppress laughter. "Tongue in cheek" is the antithesis of the later phrase - "with a straight face."
Further more....
The term first appeared in print in The Fair Maid of Perth, by novelist Sir Walter Scott, 1828:
"The fellow who gave this all-hail thrust his tongue in his cheek to some scapegraces like himself."
It isn't entirely clear that Scott was referring to the ironic use of the expression. A later citation from Richard Barham's The Ingoldsby Legends, 1845 is unambiguous though:
He fell to admiring his friend's English watch.
He examined the face,
And the back of the case,
And the young Lady's portrait there, done on enamel, he
Saw by the likeness was one of the family;
Cried "Superbe! Magnifique!" (With his tongue in his cheek)
Then he open'd the case, just to take a peep in it, and
Seized the occasion to pop back the minute hand.
And in addition....
Tongue-in-cheek humour in fiction
Tongue-in-cheek humour in fiction often takes the form of gentle parodies. Such stories seem to abide by the conventions of an established serious genre, while in reality, they gently poke fun at some aspects of that genre. A tongue-in-cheek work still relies on these conventions and is not the same as a farce. Examples of films that are made in a tongue-in-cheek way are Scream, A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy, Shaun of the Dead, Demolition Man, True Lies, or Hot Fuzz. Note that these films are still faithful to their genre (slasher, musical, zombie, action, spy, and police-thriller respectively) and are not out-and-out parodies such as Airplane! or Scary Movie. Tongue-in-cheek humor does not typically break the fourth wall.
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Just for the hell of it..
Lets take the runflat tires off the Z06 and see how consistant and easier it is to hold at the limit.
The dodge Viper this year dumped the runflats because quite frankly the compromise they enforce to a sports car is far outweighed by the slight inconvenience a super sports car might endure..
The sticky rubber that so many "exotic " cars throw on their vehicles I am sure has more to do with thier "superior" feel than anything else ....at least in the year 2008.
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I was saying that in a tongue-in-cheek manner. You know...
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