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Old 03-04-2009, 05:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So, what was the conclusion on the GTR v. Z06

performance. I still think that Nissan is playing a little game here. I find it hard to believe that 480 hp is going to get 4,000 lbs down the track at 11.4! And I don't care that it is AWD. That might help what 1/2 second on the take off (and I won't argue with the 0-60 times either because that is less than 1/2 second).

Now, I know several bone stock Z's are running faster than that, but that is 505 hp and about 3,350 lbs with driver.

Going to the drag strip in a couple of weeks (once the salt gets off the road) and I pray that I can run one of those things.

Anyway, any credible source that Nissan is playing tricks with their cars.
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Old 03-04-2009, 08:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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They say the hp is 480 on the books but all the mags say its much more. Motortrend for example did a dyno and said at least 507 hp and there are many more dynos out there to back that up.
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hmmm...check out the video link below. It should answer some questions, as this was an unmodded LS3-C6....BTW...this was a closed course/air strip rental...not done on the street., as I know this site does not condone street racing videos.


Rednecks on the Runway:::Hertz Vette vs Nissan GTR- Video
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Old 03-04-2009, 11:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: So, what was the conclusion on the GTR v. Z06

With AWD how did the GTR get that bad of a launch? I would think a Z06 would get beat out of the hole, but gain ground or pass a GTR down the track.
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: So, what was the conclusion on the GTR v. Z06

Check out the latest car mags, I think it's Automobile for Mar or APR...Porsche has a hair up their collective German but about the Nissan claims. The GT3 ran away from it in like-driver stock testing at the ring. Granted, though, the GT3 is twice the price and the owners half as likely to want to race! The vaunted new limited edition GTR has a whopping 5hp increase. The two best times from the ring are both mfg claimed times, i.e. not reliable. I think Nissan is quitting the hype since the ACR and ZR-1 stole the thunder, no?

I think a GTR in launch mode would make an average driver tough to beat in a Z in the 1/4 unless you are very good. But I also think it will sure enough break a GTR if done enough. I can't believe I actually considered getting a GTR a year ago until I realized they were way over MSRP (not mentioned by any car mags in their "best price" jerk-fest for the GTR).
One poster here mentioned how they would be way less fun on a track than a Z, and after one year in my Z (and owning a modded WRX), I totally agree.
I would love to see one at my next track day...And as I think they are hideous to look at, I think you can figure out why.

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With AWD how did the GTR get that bad of a launch? I would think a Z06 would get beat out of the hole, but gain ground or pass a GTR down the track.
He didn't use the lauch control in fear of damaging the transmission, (reportedly costing $20k to repair). It's reported that Nissan won't warranty the trans if launched at full throttle with the launch control active.
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He didn't use the lauch control in fear of damaging the transmission, (reportedly costing $20k to repair). It's reported that Nissan won't warranty the trans if launched at full throttle with the launch control active.
I don't blame him. I wouldn't side-step the clutch in my car either.
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
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He didn't use the lauch control in fear of damaging the transmission, (reportedly costing $20k to repair). It's reported that Nissan won't warranty the trans if launched at full throttle with the launch control active.
This is what I was about to respond with...thanks. It still shows that the GTR could not close ranks on that stock A6-C6 in a mile long run...so I'm thinking, not as fast as they claim.
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:19 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The GT-R is not a bad car at all. There are videos you can find where it's modded with exhaust, tune and tires (and some slight weight reduction) and the car runs 10.5s all day long with a 1.5 60'. I'm planning to buy one when I can get a good deal. If it breaks - so what, I'll fix it. Big deal. :cool:
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The GT-R is not a bad car at all. There are videos you can find where it's modded with exhaust, tune and tires (and some slight weight reduction) and the car runs 10.5s all day long with a 1.5 60'. I'm planning to buy one when I can get a good deal. If it breaks - so what, I'll fix it. Big deal. :cool:
That is not accurate. There are currently only two GTRs in the 10's. One ran a 10.53 at 129mph and it broke the transmission.


I have been on these two forums: GTRforum and NACTROG (my user name is 200mphdude). For your information, the transmision repair on the GTR is roughly $24000 and change( $22,415.38 plus $1,380 for installation labor) . They don't fix it, they have to replace it. But if you are a big baller and don't mind paying $24000 then by all means go nuts.

I also planned to buy one before the vette so I did my homework 18 months go. Good luck finding one near MSRP.:mug:. As far is the 1.5s 60', in reality the average GTR owner is getting anywhere between 1.7 and 1.8s 60'.

You might be able to run the 1.5 with a set of sticky tires and using Launch control but that is the biggest fear on any GTR owner. The new 09 and 2010 models comes with a revise launch control and it is no longer as agressive as before. Bye bye to the 3.2sec 0-60mph as they are now more into the 4 sec flat.

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That is not true at all. There are currently only two GTRs in the 10's. One ran a 10.53 at 129mph and it broke the transmission.

You said that they can run all day long but I am challenging you to prove it since you are the one that mentioned. I am going to sit back and relax.

I have been on these two forums: GTRforum and NACTROG (my user name is 200mphdude). For your information, the transmision repair on the GTR is roughly $24000 and change( $22,415.38 plus $1,380 for installation labor) . They don't fix it, they have to replace it. But if you are a big baller and don't mind paying $24000 then by all means go nuts.

I also planned to buy one before the vette so I did my homework 18 months go. Good luck finding one near MSRP.:mug:

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Wow, the cost to replace the tranny is about 1/3 the price of the car.
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Wow, the cost to replace the tranny is about 1/3 the price of the car.
You are damn right my friend... A few owners already broke the first gear. The forums talk about the fact that it is less than 1% of the failures but in reality, how many GTR are on the streets? not many.

They are working on having transmission beef up but off course it would comes with a cost.
Another thing is that the PCM-ECU records any software changes(tune) so it is part of the purchase agreement to admit warranty voidance if the ECU is reflashed. A GTR owner signs specific papers.

I am not saying that the Z06 transmission is the best iether because my 2008 Z06 has been giving me issues since 2000 miles but I will eventually send it to get it upgrade to RPM for a fraction of the cost($2395) of what it would cost you to do a GTR transmission.

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26k for the tranny, holy crap....what is that about. I was on teh fence about the GTR until I saw it live and I just thought it was the ugliest thing ever, plus I have an Infinity before and Nissan screwed me on a warrenty issue after reading about Launch contolr issue, I pretty much stayed away. I love the vette now.
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I'd rather have 2 370Z's, one for the track and one for the street..Oh, wait, no, I'd rather have my Z06....

Buy yours quick. GM will probably close March 31 (or is it April 1?)
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That is not accurate. There are currently only two GTRs in the 10's. One ran a 10.53 at 129mph and it broke the transmission.


I have been on these two forums: GTRforum and NACTROG (my user name is 200mphdude). For your information, the transmision repair on the GTR is roughly $24000 and change( $22,415.38 plus $1,380 for installation labor) . They don't fix it, they have to replace it. But if you are a big baller and don't mind paying $24000 then by all means go nuts.

I also planned to buy one before the vette so I did my homework 18 months go. Good luck finding one near MSRP.:mug:. As far is the 1.5s 60', in reality the average GTR owner is getting anywhere between 1.7 and 1.8s 60'.

You might be able to run the 1.5 with a set of sticky tires and using Launch control but that is the biggest fear on any GTR owner. The new 09 and 2010 models comes with a revise launch control and it is no longer as agressive as before. Bye bye to the 3.2sec 0-60mph as they are now more into the 4 sec flat.

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Reprogramming the Nissan GT-R -- Inside Line
I'm well aware of the cost for repairs. If I had one I wouldn't be worried about warranty work, so the ECU is the first thing that's getting flashed. I know prices for them are crazy right now. I'm in no hurry to get this thing... I can wait... even if it's years. I've actually been looking at prices for a 997. Thanks.
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