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Old 07-21-2006, 08:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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talk about a downer.. C&D Z06 v Turbo v F430

So this is a mad comparo. I (we) all know the outcome would be:
The Vette ownes the other cars but is not as good in looks/status/interior etc..

3rd place Z06
2nd place Turbo
1st place F430

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Old 07-21-2006, 08:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What does the Z06 have to do to win? Well it does cost a lot less, 1/2 the price of the turbo and 1/3 the price of the F430.
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Old 07-21-2006, 10:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Can't have $70K cars beating $130 or $192K cars, now can, we? I mean, it just wouldn't be proper.

I totally agree with them about the interior, and the suspension issues over bumps, but man, that's a harsh result considering all the performance categories the Z trashes the other two cars in, *including* time around their handling track.

I love that 430, don't get me wrong, but for a $122K price difference, they could have given the Z a little break on its interior. That $122K is, like, enough to buy a cheap house with the money you saved. Or, hell, a 997TT to use as a beater for the bad weather days when you don't wanna drive your higher peformance Chevy
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Old 07-21-2006, 11:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Ive driven the c6 z and the f 430 both within the same hour (no limits either), and i have to say i agree with the article. the z is a beast but i was more amazed when i got out of the f 430. the shifting, the sound, the controllability (if thats a word). it just felt tight. Now of course i will buy a z any day of the week over a f430.

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Old 07-22-2006, 12:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't think it's a downer. The bottom line is that everyone has their own idea of what's most important in a sports car such as exclusivity, performance, handling, raw power, luxury, style, affordability, etc. Regardless of how you rank them, those are 3 incredible sports cars.
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Old 07-22-2006, 12:13 AM   #6 (permalink)
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i so love my supercharged z06.
same milage.
a little louder.
and well....
f the axis
im sure there cars are great.
but when it comes down to it . i.e. living with it. i'll take the vette.
hel i can get parts at auto zone.
try that with a axis car.
there is no choice its the vette.
with over 500 hp at the rear its the driver any way.
hell i cant even find them to race.
when i do they wave off.
3rd place?
i dont think so
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Old 07-22-2006, 12:19 AM   #7 (permalink)
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lol yeah 110k will buy ya a 3 bed 2 bath house here.
or 3 more used c5 zo6 vetts.
let them have the badge. but please tell them ya want to run aginst them
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Old 07-22-2006, 12:39 AM   #8 (permalink)
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If you see the whole article you'll see the Z won almost every performance mark. It slaughtered them on the track by about 2 seconds on a 2 mile track. It stopped faster from every speed as well. I guess performance doesn't count for much in perormance car magazines. I've driven the 430 and it truly is one of the greats(not as good as the Stradale) but it's not 125 grand better. And the TT Porsche is just another GT Porsche. I almost fall asleep driving the 996TT. Now the GT2 is a different story.
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Old 07-22-2006, 12:50 AM   #9 (permalink)
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This part of the article was omitted before press time, chevy didnt want prospective C6 Z purchasers which were predominantly C5 owners to realize the car of their dreams was already in their hands.

H/C/LT's C5 Z06, $50k altogether with modifications

470 hp/450 ft lbs tq
curb weight: 3100 lbs
50/50 weight distribution
quarter mile:11.7@119 mph
top speed: 180 mph (6800 rpm)
1.2 G lateral
fuel economy: 12 city/26 hwy/ 20 observed 200 mile trip

"Engineered specifically to the owners liking, this is a special edition corvette, at half the price of a C6 Z06 and almost as quick. The insurance rate is half of that of the C6 Z06 as well, the styling is a bit dated but to a few devout C5 owners the C6 styling wasnt necessarily an improvement. This special C5 places first place out of the bunch considering its incredibly sexy and a real bargain."
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Old 07-22-2006, 12:53 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Just another magazine article to make the Z look bad, clearly we know the Z is a top performer, and does the interior really drag it to a 3rd place finish, i guess it does compared to exotics like Ferrari and Porsche, they should be giving credit to a car with such price, which competes with such cars
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Old 07-22-2006, 02:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Another Rag Mag report. What did you expect? The Truth?

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Old 07-22-2006, 06:46 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The magazines just can't type that the Corvette once again is the worlds best...No body would buy the magazine. We've all read it before a dozen times....

As for the review? I'd say its right on the money...

The Ferrari f430 is a tactile facimile of a formula one race car and thats what is being sought out by those with the money...(either that or the image)

Ferrari has done a great job and at that price they should have...

The Porsche? Its dam fast off the line and a great vehicle in so many ways...

Still the flat out performance of the corvette Z06 C6 is superior to those two vehicles and for that? You gotta love it.

Thanks for the article information.

I'll take third place with pride. GM should too..

Its a performance win and a balance many of us would prefer....
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Old 07-22-2006, 07:34 AM   #13 (permalink)
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The funny thing to me is, most every mag has driven these cars already or at least very closely related models of these cars. I think I remember C&D testing the Z06, I could look that up. Anyway, they already knew the "interior materials, fit and finish etc." so why bother to do a performance test? They already knew that they wanted to place the Chevy last no matter what the performance was.
I guess I would take all three cars for an extended period of time run them like I wanted to and return them before the Ferrari doing an oil change or brake job if I could too.
All three are world class performance cars what fun that testing must have been, I just wonder if most of the article was written before the first test. I'm glad they printed the "performance" results. I like that better than the subjective writing.
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Old 07-22-2006, 07:52 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Just another magazine article to make the Z look bad, clearly we know the Z is a top performer, and does the interior really drag it to a 3rd place finish, i guess it does compared to exotics like Ferrari and Porsche, they should be giving credit to a car with such price, which competes with such cars
Personally I couldn't say that pitting the Z06 against the mega buck Ferrari and Porsche would make it look bad. After all, look at the company it keeps.
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I loved the "Top Gear" test. The F car is pulling 430 gears while the Z is in at 3.42. The Z would do very well against both cars in a test like that being driven in the correct gear. I think that test was to show case the F car. It is way down in torque compared to the other two. I would love to see a video of the standing start 0 to 150 sprint. The Z would put train car lengths on the F car in a test like that. I can over look a "sub-standard" interior for the Z's performance and value. If you want to ungrade the interior I'm sure I can have one to far exceed both the P and F car for under 10K.
All in all I love the F and P cars but the Z is the clear winner in my book. Check Book that is. Just MHO.
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