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Rasidel · 10-30-2005, 06:18 PM

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The engine in the 2006 Z06 is based upon a design that's 50 years old.

is this accurate? any more info or links would be appreciated....

wallyman424 · 10-30-2005, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasidel

is this accurate? any more info or links would be appreciated....

no.

Chris Draper · 10-30-2005, 06:26 PM

The Small Block Chevy V8 was first created in 1955, so yes.

Technically they have absolutley nothing in common though.

Rasidel · 10-30-2005, 06:34 PM

thanks guys I know it was kind of a weird question but I had to settle something...

wallyman424 · 10-30-2005, 06:42 PM

sorry for my kindof jackassy short answer, but to keep it brief, this motor is nothing short of astounding. First off, its fuel efficient for a 505hp 7L motor and its low emissions. It employs the use of exotic materials (titanium) and has a dry sump oiling system so at high g's its always lubricated. the damn thing spins to 7k rpm... the newer s2000's spin to 8k.... also, its light, and i mean LIGHT compared to any other motor. bar none.

Rasidel · 10-30-2005, 06:59 PM

n/p, I know it was a goofy question. I agree with you 100% that it is a technological "tour de force"..

jdogg · 10-30-2005, 07:08 PM

For all your GM Small Block questions and answers - http://smallblock.gmblogs.com

AlabamaGuy · 10-30-2005, 08:07 PM

Along the same lines one could argue that all piston engines are based on ancient (100+ year old) designs

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Juan Gonzalez · 10-30-2005, 08:15 PM

Right now there is no higher technology than that used in this motor. Look at the results of the Lemans series races. Having more gitzmos is not higher technology. More simple, elegant and robust design sure is. You should ask Aston Martin, Ferrarri, Porshe, Viper racers and you will get the answer. Dont ask the punks that "think they know something"

bjaber · 10-30-2005, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasidel

is this accurate? any more info or links would be appreciated....

Who cares if it is... it kicks aSSphalt and hauls! It's a proven design that has done nothing but gotten better over the years.

Retired GM Engr · 10-30-2005, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasidel

is this accurate? any more info or links would be appreciated....

It's an internal combustion engine.
This is "a little bit" younger than an external combustion engine.
And, for Watt it's worth, that's Watts up.

RandyN · 10-30-2005, 10:10 PM

Uh lets see, all four wheels seem to have the same design from 2000 years ago. Round. Um whats the point! Is that supposed to be bad?

I'm missing something.

wallyman424 · 10-30-2005, 10:13 PM

im guessing rasidel encountered an asshat on another board or something who was pulling the same ignant BS about the vette being ancient tech... blah blah blah. Im just glad he came here to get the truth.

-Wally (still looking for someone to "sponsor" me a C6Z

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Rasidel · 10-31-2005, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wallyman424

im guessing rasidel encountered an asshat on another board or something who was pulling the same ignant BS about the vette being ancient tech... blah blah blah. Im just glad he came here to get the truth.

-Wally (still looking for someone to "sponsor" me a C6Z

)

bingo...... here's his posts that led up to my question, in case you want to see:

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The new Z06 is one car I lust after. As much as I respect, admire, and revere the small block Chevy, it really would have been great if the new Z06 had received a big block in the form of the ZL1 1969 engine. Not only a true 427, but if tuned like the small block 428 in the new Z06 (yes, it is really a small block 428 not a small block 427), I would imagine it would be putting quite a bit more than 505 HP. Remember, in 1969, it was putting out around 610 HP.

I have a mini road test of one of the two Corvettes built in 1969 with the ZL1 (there were 69 Camaros with that engine built that year). Anyway, the 1969 Corvette with the ZL1 and street tires managed a 10.3 at 130 MPH in the quarter.

I said I would be just fine with the LS7 and wouldn't want the '69 ZL1 motor in the C6 Z06, and he said:

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What do you think the small block Chevy is? Heck, it's 10 years older than the big block Chevy, having been introduced in 1955. The engine that's in the 2006 Z06 is based upon a design that's 50 years old. All that means is Chevrolet did it right.

My point was to take a monter engine from the supercar era and bring it up to present day tune (ah, just like they did with the small block).

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I don't know where you're getting your info from.... yes the '06 Z06 motor is similar to the Vette motor from 1955, in that it has 8 cylinders, a block, and pistons. The same can be said about ANY 8 cylinder car. The LS7 is a technological tour de force based on the C6R motor, not the 1955 Vette. The engines have come a LONG way.

the Chevy smallblock V8 engine was created in 1955 but other than being a smallblock V8, it has pretty much NOTHING in common with the C6 Z06 motor.

people will tell you anything out there and once in a while it makes you do a double-take and you start to wonder yourself, what the truth is... that's when I came here. thanks guys.

Rapid Transit · 10-31-2005, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rasidel

bingo...... here's his posts that led up to my question, in case you want to see:

I said I would be just fine with the LS7 and wouldn't want the '69 ZL1 motor in the C6 Z06, and he said:

then I said:

people will tell you anything out there and once in a while it makes you do a double-take and you start to wonder yourself, what the truth is... that's when I came here. thanks guys.

I'm no engineer, but I can tell you 1 fact: the C6 Z06 engine is based on the C5R, NOT the C6.R as you stated.