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Old 11-22-2007, 03:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Comparison video of exhaust butterflies open/closed...

Thought some of you guys might appreciate this...

My brother picked up a 2008 Z06 yesterday... Today we disconnected and plugged the vacuum hoses at the butterfly actuators just to see how it sounds...

In the video, I manually open and close the butterflies...
It makes it much easier to compare the different exhaust note.

http://s214.photobucket.com/albums/c...t=MOV05136.flv

Another video of him driving up the street. (butterflies open)
http://s214.photobucket.com/albums/c...t=MOV05125.flv

Seperate video... butterflies closed.
http://s214.photobucket.com/albums/c...t=MOV05137.flv

Seperate video... butterflies open.
http://s214.photobucket.com/albums/c...t=MOV05138.flv

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Old 11-22-2007, 03:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Comparison video of exhaust butterflies open/closed...

Get the Mild To Wild Plug and Play at Mid America or Zip Products...takes 5mins to install under Pass. foot rest...$99 to $130
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Comparison video of exhaust butterflies open/closed...

Apart from the better sound, what is the use. Any gains in performance?
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Comparison video of exhaust butterflies open/closed...

Eh... who knows. It sounds better... so it MUST be faster, right ?
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:09 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Comparison video of exhaust butterflies open/closed...

what would be the advantage of spending $100+ for the mild to wild plug and play rather than manually disconnecting the butterflies for free?? does this affect the computer some way??
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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what would be the advantage of spending $100+ for the mild to wild plug and play rather than manually disconnecting the butterflies for free?? does this affect the computer some way??
I know it can't hurt anything by plugging the vac lines at the solenoids, because for all the computer knows, everything is working as normal. There are no sensors to confirm butterfly open/close status.

I think it sounds a million times better with them open anyway... I'd just leave 'em that way.

May be too loud for the old farts, but for the younger guys it's perfect.
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I know it can't hurt anything by plugging the vac lines at the solenoids, because for all the computer knows, everything is working as normal. There are no sensors to confirm butterfly open/close status.

I think it sounds a million times better with them open anyway... I'd just leave 'em that way.

May be too loud for the old farts, but for the younger guys it's perfect.
I don't know about OLD Farts...I'm 60+ now and guess I'm one of those O.F.'s anyway...The advantage of the Plug in remote, is you can have it LOUD or MELLOW...with the hit of the remote....Best MOD I've done on my z-06...Other Vette Owners want to hear the difference....at idle or 3000RPM's+ May get a little better MPG too on the open road....Now I don't want to change my z-06 pipes....I have the best of both worlds...
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Re: Comparison video of exhaust butterflies open/closed...

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I know it can't hurt anything by plugging the vac lines at the solenoids, because for all the computer knows, everything is working as normal. There are no sensors to confirm butterfly open/close status.

I think it sounds a million times better with them open anyway... I'd just leave 'em that way.

May be too loud for the old farts, but for the younger guys it's perfect.
Just pull the fuse under the pass. floorboard, no need to plug vac. lines.
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Howdy Tom,,,what you up to these days..yeah jus pull the ol' fuse...lol
I've blown my fuse a coupla times...lol
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what would be the advantage of spending $100+ for the mild to wild plug and play rather than manually disconnecting the butterflies for free?? does this affect the computer some way??
I've got the M2W wireless remote switch. I love being able to open the butterflies to hear some exhaust music.

Butt.....The night before a 1,600 mile road trip the butterflies were staying open all the time. I thought it was the M2W switch malfunctioning. I messed around with it, checked the fuses, checked the ground, but it wouldn't close the valves.

We went on the trip with the valves open, and the first thing my wife said as we pulled out onto the interstate was "the Z06 is a lot louder than the regular C6". (I've got Corsa Sports on the '05 coupe).

When you are cruising in a range of about 1,400 to 1,700 rpm there is a rather annoying drone - it's not a nice-to-hear, satisfying exhaust note, it's a drumming resonance that bothers even my old deaf ears.

The solution was to get up to 85 or better to get out of that rpm range!

When we stopped for the first night I checked things out again but couldn't find any problem with the electrical connections/fuses. I could hear a clicking in the M2W box when I activated the remote so I was pretty sure it was working okay.

The next night I started looking at the vacuum lines. Everything seemed hooked up in the back at the exhaust. I popped the hood and no idea in the world where to start looking for lines in the engine compartment, but right in front of me was a loose tube. It's in the very back-left of the engine compartment, right by the braided fuel line that goes into the FRC. The end of the tube was split, so I cut off an inch and pushed it back onto the nipple and started the car.

Voila! That was the problem, and the butterflies closed now that their vacuum source was reconnected.

So......moral of the story is:

1. There is an annoying drone at highway cruising speeds if the valves are open all the time.

2. If you don't want to get a M2W remote or make a switch to control your valves, you can cause them to be open all the time by pulling the fuse, or you can pull the vacuum tube loose and cap off the nipple (either back at the valves, or in the engine compartment). I wouldn't leave an open vacuum line. I don't think either way will mess up the PCM, although I'm sure the PCM uses some manifold pressure measurements and an open vacuum line might screw with those inputs.

Me, I like having the ability to open the valves most of the time, but it's nice to be able to close them for quieter highway cruising.

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