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Old 02-24-2006, 09:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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CTS-V v Z06 brakes

As most of you know, the CTS-V has Brembo four piston monoblock calipers and 14 inch Brembo vented discs, front and rear. We know the Z06 has PBR 6 piston front, 4 piston rear, calipers with individual pads, and with cross-drilled rotors from somewhere.

Is the CTS-V system better than the Z06 system? Certainly, it is a name brand; pads are widely available, as are rotors; and they are big brakes in a car heavier than the Z.

Since the CTS-V costs less than the Z, cost shouldn't be an obstacle for putting these brakes on the Z.

Well, what do you think? Do any of you technical types know enough about both systems to illuminate us? Should Chevy use these CTS-V brakes on the Z for 2007?
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Old 02-24-2006, 07:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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6 lug wheels on the CTS-V and STS-V

5 lug wheels on the Z

Not going to fit very well.
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Old 02-25-2006, 10:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Way to many people complaining for no reason

It read more post regarding how bad are the brake on the C6 ZO6 then the number of car been produced.
How that work ?

The new car as great brake sorry, maybe not for full racing but for sure to have plainty of fun. As for the Rotor I was looking at Mercedes AMG and they did like GM they only have Left side, i guess this is not very important.
The C6 brake are better then my C5 and my C4 ZR1 i own previously and i did have a lot of fun with theses car i never have a brake problem. One thing I will do when available is to change the rubber hose for Stainless steal breaded and change brake fluid to highest quality I can find. When the rotor become worn or bad then I will see but I am sure they will be there for a pretty long time.
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Old 02-25-2006, 10:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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More people post regarding the brake the the number of car produced.
The new car as great brake sorry, maybe not for full racing but for sure to have plainty of fun. As for the Rotor I was looking at Mercedes AMG and they did like GM they only have Left side, i guess this is not very important.
The C6 brake are better then my C5 and my C4 ZR1 i own previously and i did have a lot of fun with theses car i never have a brake problem. One thing I will do when available is to change the rubber hose for Stainless steal breaded and change brake fluid to highest quality I can find. When the rotor become worn or bad then I will see but I am sure they will be there for a pretty long time.
Excuse me, but...


What the hell did you just say?
I'm going to need some translation on this post.
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Old 02-25-2006, 11:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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What I say is

Just in case you do not understand my french, I find out a lot of people complain about the brake and for no reason.
It seem it as more complain about the brake system then car been produced.

I owned 15 vette over the year and I have no problem about the new brake on the ZO6.

Instead to spend money on after market brake most people should go to a Corvette driving school this will be better money spend.
Then they may have a reason to upgrade them.

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Old 02-25-2006, 11:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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No problem Lem...........I understood what you were saying. I can only imagine what I'd sound like if I tried to post on a French, German, or Spanish speaking board. You did much better than I could have.

And you're right.......these brakes are very capable as a compromise between street needs and higher performance. As Stoptech and other very-informed posters have noted, you can't have it both ways for street and track.

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Old 02-26-2006, 09:56 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 02-26-2006, 10:58 AM   #8 (permalink)
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The pad material is a reasonable compromise.

Upgrading the brake calipers and rotors is arguably the most effective way to improve C6Z track performance. Talk to any of the folks who have put StopTech, Brembo, etc. two piece rotors and calipers on the car and they will verify this. Just the ability to use a reasonable selection of street and track pads is a significant benefit. GM's choice of caliper for the C6Z is an odd 'two steps forward and one step back' design.
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Old 02-26-2006, 11:15 AM   #9 (permalink)
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6 lug wheels on the CTS-V and STS-V

5 lug wheels on the Z

Not going to fit very well.
I don't believe the fact one is 6 lug versus 5 lug has any bearing on whether they will fit or not.
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GM's choice of caliper for the C6Z

Regarding this comment, GM's choice of caliper for the C6Z is an odd 'two steps forward and one step back' design.
I guess we still one step forward ?

Is that means better ?

Yes Brembo, Stoptech, Alcon are all great and been use for a long time in racing and yes it will be an improvement over a C4 or C5 and C6 brake system when been use in full racing situation.

For most of us and many of other who think they are all racer the C6 ZO6 brake work fine at lite to medium track speed or on the street

I believe going to advance driving school and learn how to balance and drive your car fast and smooth, the brake will last longer.
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I believe you will find that those people who have taken their C6Z's to the track for typical high performance driving use are having to replace pads pretty quickly due to both taper and wear and they cost $400+ for a full set.

In addition, the bolts that hold them in are single use bolts (new sets come with replacements) so even if you had track pads and wanted to swap them in for HPDE days you would likely need to throw out the bolts each time you did a swap.

Also, keeping track of where each of the 20 pads were originally located so you get them back in original positions after a track pad swap is likely going to be a bit error prone and putting them in the wrong positions may compromise safety.

Yes, the brakes stop and with the right care and feeding they can be used for HPDE; but, they will be a lot more hassle and likely cost more over the long run than they would have if GM had used a more conventional design.

Other than cost, these calipers appear to have no advantage over any of the equivalent calipers on the market. It would have been hard for GM to find a worse 6 piston caliper to put on the car. So, they do add two pistons; have a good street pad compound and provide sexy cosmetics. But, they are working out to be a bit less track worthy than they are being touted as.

So, for those who feel they are HPDE track worthy, it would be interesting to hear if they can name an existing 6 piston caliper brake on an existing car or sold after market that they think this brake beats in any respect other than cosmetics.
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Old 02-27-2006, 02:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Has anyone had any experience with the CTS-V's brakes? Has anyone tracked it?

Regardless of who makes it, a brake system with any sporting pretensions should enable you to pull one pin on the caliper, remove the pads from the top, drop in a new set, reinsert the pin and be on your way.

Six individual pads?
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