Z06Vette.com - Corvette Z06 Forum - Im a BAD person ..... I enjoy downloading music online

99CORVETTEGUY · 03-06-2004, 06:34 PM

Well I got into it with a friend the other day about downloading music. I myself havent bought music in 5-6 years. I used napster all the time. Then when the Communsists shut that down I went to kazaa. Thats what i use today. I can't for the life of me understand how shareing music that someone originaly purchased is bad ?

Yet I know some of you people take the goverments Side . I would just like to hear your argument

**FiveOJoe** · 03-06-2004, 06:43 PM

I downloaded 8000 songs from Napster. Before Napster I used to tape music off the radio. I don't see the difference. I didn't buy the album either way and I still had to get each song one at a time. I stopped buying CD's because they were too expensive, not because of Napster. I still don't buy them. I did just settle my lawsuit with the music industry and received my settlement check in the mail last week.

I applied the settlement check to the purchase of NOMercy

Joe

Andy Cravens · 03-06-2004, 06:49 PM

I see the side of the fact that the bands get upset, but really there is nothing anyone can do to stop it. I used to download all the time. I removed Kazaa from my computer.

**jub jub** · 03-06-2004, 07:00 PM

Everyone needs to make a living. Downloading music on line is stealing...plain and simple.

TRZ06 · 03-06-2004, 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by FiveOJoe
I downloaded 8000 songs from Napster. Before Napster I used to tape music off the radio. I don't see the difference. I didn't buy the album either way and I still had to get each song one at a time. I stopped buying CD's because they were too expensive, not because of Napster. I still don't buy them. I did just settle my lawsuit with the music industry and received my settlement check in the mail last week. I applied the settlement check to the purchase of NOMercy
Joe

What kind of lawsuit did you have against the music industry? I thought THEY were the ones goinf after people?

**FiveOJoe** · 03-06-2004, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by TRZ06
What kind of lawsuit did you have against the music industry? I thought THEY were the ones goinf after people?

I was in that joke of a class-action lawsuit in which the music industry overcharged consumers billions of dollars for years. I (and about a 100 million other people) got a settlement check for $13.00!!

Napster's original idea was sharing, not stealing. I found music from the 60's and 70's, concerts from 20 and 30 years ago and songs that haven't been in print for many, many years. Since they weren't in print, I wouldn't have been able to buy them anyway. My idea was not to circumvent paying for records, I was looking for impossible to find songs. When the courts decided it was stealing, it was then stealing.
Bands never had a problem with it when people taped music from the radio, something I did for years and years. They never went after the people who manufactured blank tapes, did they? It only became a problem because technology made it so easy for so many people to get so many songs.
Since Napster has been shut down, record and CD sales have NOT improved, so Lars and all of the rest of the Industry was wrong, it( Napster) had no impact on record and CD sales. Actually I think it was good for the industry.

Joe

HiJincs · 03-06-2004, 07:36 PM

Must not bite . . .

Look away . . .

Ignore it . . .

Don't feed the trolls . . .

RpoZo6xopel · 03-06-2004, 07:51 PM

I used to use Kazaa but then moved on to MIRC. I still purchase CD's but I agree with fiveojoe about downloading impossible to find songs. Ive downloaded many oldies and undergorund music that is hard to find in a store. Like Andy Cravens said theres not stopping it. And of course when they shut down Napster the record sales didnt go up because Napster isnt the only file sharing program. One shuts down it just opens the door for another one to become the big dog such as Kazaa. But in all I dont really worry about it to much, when im downloading I dont feel as if im stealing. But you should worry about the RIAA if your a big file sharer, me I dont share so I keep a low profile. hehe

nutbush · 03-06-2004, 08:12 PM

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Originally posted by 99CORVETTEGUY
I can't for the life of me understand how shareing music that someone originaly purchased is bad ?

Put it this way. If the internet did not exist, and someone wanted a song(s), what do they do? They go buy it. Enter the internet. A song is uploaded and made available to billions of computer owners and what do they do if they want the song(s), now, they dont buy it. They download it for free. Equating to loss of revenue for the artist.

If you wrote a book and your publisher told you that for every copy sold you got $1.00, you'd be counting your money in potential sales. So, how would you feel if I was making copies of your book and handing them out for free outside of every bookstore in the world? See my point?

**FiveOJoe** · 03-06-2004, 08:28 PM

Downloaded music has no impact on music sales. It's a bad argument, it's been proven. They just wanted money from Napster, nothing else.
It's thier music, and they deserved the money, I agree. I think they missed the boat by not leaving Napster the way it was and making it a pay service of $14.99 a month. I would have gladly paid. Give everybody a cut and Everybody would be happy!

Joe

99CORVETTEGUY · 03-06-2004, 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by FiveOJoe
Downloaded music has no impact on music sales. It's a bad argument, it's been proven. They just wanted money from Napster, nothing else.
It's thier music, and they deserved the money, I agree. I think they missed the boat by not leaving Napster the way it was and making it a pay service of $14.99 a month. I would have gladly paid. Give everybody a cut and Everybody would be happy!

Joe

well i wouldnt pay $14.99 a month but i did pay $25 for kazaa pluss to not have any spywear on my PC. Im more than happy to support Kazaa. I dont even rent movies anymore

**jub jub** · 03-06-2004, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by nutbush
Put it this way. If the internet did not exist, and someone wanted a song(s), what do they do? They go buy it. Enter the internet. A song is uploaded and made available to billions of computer owners and what do they do if they want the song(s), now, they dont buy it. They download it for free. Equating to loss of revenue for the artist.

If you wrote a book and your publisher told you that for every copy sold you got $1.00, you'd be counting your money in potential sales. So, how would you feel if I was making copies of your book and handing them out for free outside of every bookstore in the world? See my point?

Exactly!

Z06wish · 03-06-2004, 11:47 PM

I have no problem "stealing" from the music industry. I buy a CD when it is a good CD. Today "artists" will come up with 5 or 6 great songs and put 2 of them on a CD. They'll save the others for their next CD because they are greedy. If they were real artists they would just be happy that people are listening. Movies are a different story. They know that the whole movie has to be good to get people to buy it. I don't download or burn movies. I buy/rent them.

It is all about the Green JMO

case2307 · 03-07-2004, 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by jub jub
Everyone needs to make a living. Downloading music on line is stealing...plain and simple.

Sorry guys...I agree with John...I never did have a problem paying for Cd's.

**G-Z06** · 03-07-2004, 12:24 AM

1: They make most of their money on Tours
2: If CD's cost .5 cents to make why do they sell them for 20 bucks?
3: I like it cause its beating the system. No matter what the government tries to do. Kids will always be a step ahead of them.

All the above attends to the fact of a "If I hear a good song on the radio I will go home and d/l it"

If I really like a band. I will buy their CD to support them and their music.