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Old 01-25-2004, 08:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Interesting info on Captain Kangeroo

Captain Kangaroo turned 76 recently, which is odd, because he's never looked a day under 76. (DOB: 6/27/27)
It reminded me of the following story: Some people are a bit offended that the actor, Lee Marvin, is buried in a grave alongside 3- and 4-star generals at Arlington National Cemetery. His marker gives his name, rank (PVT.) and service (USMC). Nothing else.
Here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time. Why the heck does he rate burial with these guys? Well, following is the amazing answer:
In a time when many Hollywood stars served their country in the Armed Forces (often in rear-echelon posts where they were carefully protected, only to be trotted out to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions), Lee Marvin was a genuine hero. He won the Navy Cross at Iwo Jima. There is only one higher Naval award -- the Medal of Honor.
If that is a surprising comment on the true character of the man, he credits his sergeant with an even greater show of bravery.
Dialog from the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson: His guest was Lee Marvin.
Johnny said: "Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima . . . and that during the course of that action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded."
"Yeah, yeah . . . I got shot square in the a-- and they gave me the Cross for securing a hot spot about Halfway up Suribachi . . . bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys getting' shot hauling you down. But, Johnny, at Iwo I served under the bravest man I ever knew. We both got the Cross the same day, but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. The dumb fellow actually stood up on Red Beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the heck off the beach. Bullets flying by and mortar rounds landing everywhere and he stood there as the main target of gun fire so that he could get his men to safety. He did this on more than one occasion because his men's safety was more important than his own life.
That Sergeant and I have been lifelong friends. When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the Sergeant and he lit a smoke and passed it to me, lying on my belly on the litter and said, "Where'd they get you, Lee?" "Well, Bob if you make it home before me, tell Mom to sell the outhouse!"
Johnny, I'm not lying . . . Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest man I ever knew." The Sergeant's name is Bob Keeshan . . . the world knows him as "Captain Kangaroo."
On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who recently passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he know portrays to our youth. But Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore long-sleeved sweaters on his show to cover the many tattoos on his forearms and biceps. He was a master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat.
After the war, Mr. Rogers became an ordained Presbyterian Minister and a pacifist. Vowing to never harm another human and also dedicating the rest of his life to trying to help lead children on the right path in my life. He hid the tattoos and his past life away and won our hearts with his quiet wit
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America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did, they quietly go about their day-to-day lives, doing what they do best. They earned our respect and protected the freedoms that we all enjoy.

To all three men
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Old 01-25-2004, 08:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow, I didn't know that any of them were in the military. There are many more like them too. My grandfather, USMC 4 Marine Div., participated on the landing of Iwo Jima. He was a demolitoner that blew up the Japanese caves. I never heard him say a word of what he did. He became a deacon and all after the war. He had books on the war, and watched the history channel and all, but he never really spoke of what he did. I'm sure they're 1,000's more like them.
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Amazing information. Thanks. All the more to pay tribute to both The Captain and Mr. Rogers.

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Old 01-25-2004, 08:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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And I think Lee got shorted on his rank as he was very convincing in the movie Dirty Dozen.
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Russ: I knew Keeshan and Marvin were Marines, I read up on stuff like that all the time(War heroes etc). I never heard anything like that on Mr. Rogers though. He would have been in his 30's during Vietnam? Sure that one's not legend? I like to know more!

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Joe,
I don't know about Rogers. I recieved the info in an email from a friend of mine.

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Old 01-25-2004, 09:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Russ: I knew Keeshan and Marvin were Marines, I read up on stuff like that all the time(War heroes etc). I never heard anything like that on Mr. Rogers though. He would have been in his 30's during Vietnam? Sure that one's not legend? I like to know more!

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Looking at Keeshan's birth date and knowing when the Marines landed on Iwo then he could not have been any older than 18 as a Sargent. Must have been a pretty good Marine to make rank so quickly.

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I don't know about Rogers. I recieved the info in an email from a friend of mine.

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I don't think he was a Marine. I remember the story on Johnny about Lee Marvin too but I thought he got the Purple Heart for being wounded at Saipan. Nevertheless, a hero in my book!!

Other Marines:

F.Lee Bailey
Ed McMahon
Drew Carey
Mills Lane
Brian Dennehy
Montel Williams
Gene Hackman
Don Adams-Get Smart
Pee Wee Herman
Steve McQueen
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Russ: I knew Keeshan and Marvin were Marines, I read up on stuff like that all the time(War heroes etc). I never heard anything like that on Mr. Rogers though. He would have been in his 30's during Vietnam? Sure that one's not legend? I like to know more!

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You are correct again, Officer Joe. Mr. Rogers NEVER served in the military and did not have any tattoos. He wore his long sleeved sweaters to maintain an air of dignity on his TV show.

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I don't think he was a Marine. I remember the story on Johnny about Lee Marvin too but I thought he got the Purple Heart for being wounded at Saipan. Nevertheless, a hero in my book!!

Other Marines:

F.Lee Bailey
Ed McMahon
Drew Carey
Mills Lane
Brian Dennehy
Montel Williams
Gene Hackman
Don Adams-Get Smart
Pee Wee Herman
Steve McQueen
Pee Wee Herman? Shouldn't that have come under "don't ask, don't tell?"

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Lee Marvin and Capt Kangaroo - http://www.snopes.com/military/keeshan.htm (false)

Mr. Rogers - http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp (also false)

A quick Google usually reveals these stories to be false, guys.
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I guess thats why I never heard about any of them being in the service, because they were not. O well.

What about that guy from Mail Call. I know he did a voice once on the Simpsons, general during the airshow, and I think I heard he was in some other movies.
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I guess thats why I never heard about any of them being in the service, because they were not. O well.

What about that guy from Mail Call. I know he did a voice once on the Simpsons, general during the airshow, and I heard he was in some other movies.
Captain Kangaroo and Lee Marvin were Marines and Marvin did fight in several battles and get wounded.

Ronald Lee Ermey(from Mail Call and Full Metal Jacket) was a Gunnery Sergeant in The Marines and served two tours in Vietnam.

Still a Marine, just ask him.

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Captain Kangaroo and Lee Marvin were Marines and Marvin did fight in several battles and get wounded.

Ronald Lee Ermey(from Mail Call and Full Metal Jacket) was a Gunnery Sergeant in The Marines and served two tours in Vietnam.

Still a Marine, just ask him.

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Joe,

Ronald Lee Ermey also played a Marine DI in the movie "The Boys From Company C." And I would agree, he definately is still a Marine.

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Another piece of trivia, Bob Keeshan was the original Clarabelle the (mute, hoonked a horn moutn on box he worn on the front of his belt) clown on the Howdy Doody show.
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