STi vs Evo...where does the Z06 stand against these cars?

[Roadracer247]

Ok so I just checked out this video comparing the new evo with the STi...
http://www.norcalevo.net/gallery/alb...ScoobyLow.mpeg

Interesting video...but what I'm wondering is how those cars might compare with a Z06? handling? Acceleration? overall ride? I'm not going to ask about looks as we all know the Z06 wins here....

So where does a Z06 stand compared to these cars?

[ZO6 AL-X]

Assuming all cars are stock:

I think they come close in the handling department.

Z wins in acceleration.

From what I've heard, the Z has a more comfortable ride. I was told by a friend of mine, who considered buying an Evo, that the ride was too harsh.

Of course, these comparisons are taking numbers right out of a magazine. My friend does not own a Z, but he was saying this about the Evo when we went out to lunch one time.

[xsiveone]

I heard that the STi is more powerful than the EVO, but the EVO is more balanced and better handling.

Have no idea how they would compare to the Z. Definitely not as quick in a straight line on a dry road as the Z. Definitely not as much torque. The Z probably holds the skidpad better, but these cars might do a very good job with changing directions quickly.

I can't imagine a car riding any better than the Z, while giving you this much handling.

Apples and oranges... I certainly wouldn't mind having either an EVO or STi in addition to the Z.

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[z06_23_45]

I've ridden in an EVO and its definitely a nice car but I think the Z will outhandle it. The STi really seemed to understeer alot which suprised me. You seem to be able to load up the suspension very easily. As far as power is concerned the Z definitely has more bite.

[NewZO6]

I'm sure the Z would be able to handle them in most any kind of race but a lot of people seem to underestimate them on the street. Their AWD makes them pretty formidable off the line in a short street race.

[No Doubt]

Here are some laptimes from various roadcourses. These are results of the 2004 Open Track Challenge.

Thunderhill Raceway:

2003 Mitsubishi EVO VIII 02:05.
2003 Mitsubishi EVO VIII 02:07.
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 02:10
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 02:13

Sears Point Infineon:

2003 Mitsubishi EVO VIII 01:54
2003 Mitsubishi EVO VIII 01:56
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 01:58
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 01:59.

Buttonwillow Raceway Park:

2003 Mitsubishi EVO VIII 02:04
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 02:05
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 02:06
2003 Mitsubishi EVO VIII 02:06

Willow Springs International Raceway:

2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 01:32
2003 Mitsubishi EVO VIII 01:32
2003 Mitsubishi EVO VIII 01:33
2003 Mitsubishi EVO VIII 01:34
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 01:35
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 01:37

[MikeyB]

Both AWD, so you would have to be careful out of the hole. Other than that, even though I do like both cars, the Z would smoke'em.

[WayneE]

Both are cool cars, IMO. Stock Evo or STi vs. stock Z06 in acceleration, the Z06 wins hands down. No Doubt's numbers show the road course results

There are a couple of STis locally that are running 12.0s or high 11s, so they can be made pretty quick. I think they run 13.1-.2 bone stock. Not sure about the Evo, other than my buddy's car that ran an 11

[Racer Z]

Not sure about the handling but for acceleration the Z06 is much faster. I've run into a couple of them, very fast off the line but not much after, but for $30k they (the subie and evo) are great deals. Best bang for the buck, imo.

[xsiveone]

Not sure about the handling but for acceleration the Z06 is much faster. I've run into a couple of them, very fast off the line but not much after, but for $30k they (the subie and evo) are great deals. Best bang for the buck, imo.

Did you happen to look at the lap times above? It's no question that the Z is quicker in a straight line, but...

If the Z is faster in a straight line and handles better, where are the EVO's lap times coming from?

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[No Doubt]

I'll tell you: momentum. It's all about maintaining momentum. A small light car with great traction (AWD) and a good power to weight ratio can brake later and maintain speed through the corners. They can go to throttle sooner as well. They carry speed into and through the corners and on the tight corners they have the advantage. The Z on the otherhand will pull on the straights but that comes at the cost of having to brake sooner. Of course there is always the driver differential too.

[No Doubt]

If you can bait the larger more powerful car into the braking zone then they are forced to get on the brakes hard. You on the other hand don't have to because with the lighter car and better traction you can brake later thereby maintaining momentum. That's just one simple example.

[Perry2]

The EVO seems to hand it to us pretty good on the tracks that No Doubt listed. A perfectly driven Z would be several 10ths quicker than an EVO 0-60 which would make zero difference on a road course, and should likewise be overpowering above 130 mph which again doesn't affect those lap times. I am still surprised that the AWD can overcome a 130hp disadvantage and a greater weight so I am assuming the cars listed were modified? Maybe the rubber is better for the track on the Mits but with 235/45 Yokohamas you would not expect that. I think I would like to drive the EVO. The suspension must really be something.

[Roadracer247]

One thing about the evo and sti is they respond to mods really well and the mods are much cheaper from what I have read and seen in person then a vette...

[JBsZ06]

Driver counts big time as do tires and mods..

I'm betting driver differential as the biggest factor..