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Old 05-24-2005, 04:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A Traitor is about to be honored

Found this on another forum, thought it should passed on...

A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED



She really was a traitor.

A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA


This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do
not remember, and didn't have to bear the
burden that our fathers, mothers and older
brothers and sisters had to bear.

Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the
"100 Women of the Century."


Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still
countless others have never known how Ms.
Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country,
but specific men who served and sacrificed
during Vietnam.


The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot.
The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.

In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF
Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison
the "Hanoi Hilton."


Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell,
cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was
ordered to describe for a visiting American
"Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane
treatment" he'd received.

He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was
dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward
on to the camp Commandant's feet, which
sent that officer berserk.

In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from
double vision (which permanently ended his
flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied
application of a wooden baton.

From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the
47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the
"Hanoi Hilton",,, the first three of which his
family only knew he was "missing in action".
His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and
clothed routine in preparation for a
"peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to
get word to the world that they were alive
and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny
piece of paper, with his Social Security Number
on it, in the palm of his hand.


When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each
man's hand and asking little encouraging
snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed
babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane
treatment from your benevolent captors?"
Believing this HAD to be an act, they each
palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the
end of the line and once the camera stopped
rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs,
she turned to the officer in charge and handed
him all the little pieces of paper.

Three men died from the subsequent beatings.
Colonel Carrigan was almost number four
but he survived, which is the only reason we
know of her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor
in Vietnam, and was captured by the North
Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in
1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.

I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one
year in a cage in Cambodia; and one year
in a "black box" in Hanoi.
My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a
nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South
Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the
Cambodian border.
At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs.
(My normal weight is 170 lbs.)

We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by
the camp communist political officer if I would
be willing to meet with her.

I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real
treatment we POWs received... and how
different it was from the treatment purported by
the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as
"humane and lenient."



Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky
floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched
with a large steel weights placed on my hands,
and beaten with a bamboo cane.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda
soon after I was released. I asked her
if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
She never did answer me.

These first-hand experiences do not exemplify
someone who should be honored as part
of "100 Years of Great Women."
Lest we forget..." 100 Years of Great Women"
should never include a traitor whose hands are
covered with the blood of so many patriots.

There are few things I have strong visceral
reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in
blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many
people as you possibly can.
It will eventually end up on her computer and
she needs to know that we will never forget.
RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of
Maintenance
DSN: 875-6431
COMM: 883-6343

EDIT: Snopes reviewed this story and much of it is false, but she is being honored as one of the greatest 100 women and that is still outrageous.

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Old 05-24-2005, 05:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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She has stated that she made a big mistake and was sorry, however , she should not be honored.

Some Vietnam Veterans have dedicated several memorials to her though.




After the first stories broke about her being in North Vietnam my Mother refused to watch any movie or TV show Jane Fonda was in the rest of her life.

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Old 05-24-2005, 05:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Jane Fonda ( )is still spoken of in today's military, can't say I have heard anything good about her. Even us younger guys know and honor our Military History and the Veterns who sacrificed. To all of you out there, THANKS!!!
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Old 05-24-2005, 07:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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She has stated that she made a big mistake and was sorry, however , she should not be honored.

Some Vietnam Veterans have dedicated several memorials to her though.




After the first stories broke about her being in North Vietnam my Mother refused to watch any movie or TV show Jane Fonda was in the rest of her life.

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That seems fair and appropriate
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Old 05-24-2005, 07:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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She comes out with a book/tour and is apologetic -- now.

Very convenient.

Talk is very cheap.
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Old 05-24-2005, 07:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm old school and judge a person by their actions, not their words. Ms. Fonda, isn't on my list of great humanitarians.
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She's a traitor and should have been prosecuted for sedition...along with aiding and abetting the enemy. She's nothing but trash in my book and I applaud the guy that spit on her at her book signing.
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She ought to move to Vietnam. Have no use for her.

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She ought to move to Vietnam. Have no use for her.

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And that is best anyone can say !! For a good read about a navy pilots extended stay in the Hanoi Hilton Read/See "In Love and In War" by James/Jim Stockdale published circa 1982/83(I think)....It is One of the most memorable books I have ever read... My Salutes and Humble Thanks to all who served in Viet Nam
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Well, we folks in KC represented by spitting on her. LOL
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"Woman of the century" doesn't mean she did good. It only means she made news. Sad commentary on our society.
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Ok, let me vent.

Clinton, lied and cheated us and is still looked up to. I don't give a rip if he did cheat or not, the point is he BOLD FACE LIED to us.

Jane Fonda... well you know that saga.

Sports figures, they really set a great example for our children.

Oh, don't get me started on the trash parents that think they don't have to raise their children and can sue others when they discipline them.

Then, lets talk about this litigious society that we live in.

Ok, I gotta stop. I decided a long time ago that talking about this kind of thing gets us no where. Just like was said earlier, actions speak louder than words. Just take a look around you and tell me what you see.
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Well, we folks in KC represented by spitting on her. LOL
And I applauded that veteran!!! the traitorous bee-yotch!!
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What do you call a Vietnam Vet who vomits onto Jane Fonda?
An honorable discharge. She needs to leave the country and go somewhere else. She is a traitor.
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She's a traitor and should have been prosecuted for sedition...along with aiding and abetting the enemy. She's nothing but trash in my book and I applaud the guy that spit on her at her book signing.
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