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Old 10-25-2008, 05:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation People, Zr-1 Is A Gift To The Z0-6!!!!!

The zo6 is essentially a 5 speed....... 6th gear is just for gas mileage. A zo-6 with a zr-1 transmission will be a true six speed GUARANTEEING faster accelaration. And most importantly, maintaining the 50/50 weight distribution that the zr-1 DOESNT have.
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Old 10-25-2008, 06:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The zo6 is essentially a 5 speed....... 6th gear is just for gas mileage. A zo-6 with a zr-1 transmission will be a true six speed GUARANTEEING faster accelaration. And most importantly, maintaining the 50/50 weight distribution that the zr-1 DOESNT have.
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Sorry bro, but I'm not sure how having 'true' 6th gear does anything for acceleration?

It may help the top end but I'm not sure exactly where you're going to need speeds in excess of 202mph?

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Old 10-25-2008, 06:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: People, Zr-1 Is A Gift To The Z0-6!!!!!

The '09 ZR1 has a sixth gear that is an overdrive gear with a ratio of 0.67:1, but unlike the Z06 its top speed is achieved in sixth gear.

The '09 Z06 also has an overdrive sixth gear with a ratio of 0.50:1.

Both use the same final drive gear ratio of 3.42:1.
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Sorry bro, but I'm not sure how having 'true' 6th gear does anything for acceleration?

It may help the top end but I'm not sure exactly where you're going to need speeds in excess of 202mph?

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Thanks for the welcome. A 6th gear helps accelaration BECAUSE with an addition of an extra CLOSE ratio gear (thats not overdrive)it basically aligns all the gear ratios, that when u shift, the motor is never far way from its powerband. This is a TOTALLY no brainer here if u own a zo6. The zr-1tranny has a host of inprovements too like shorter throws, and more precise engagemets.If u own a ZO6, u honestly would be a fool if u didnt get this transmission for your slend.
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:15 AM   #6 (permalink)
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6th gear in the ZR1 is still an overdrive gear, but it's a lower gear than 6th in the Z06, which is also an overdrive gear.

The TR6060 transmission in the ZR1 uses the MH3 gearset, whereas the Z06, which also uses the TR6060, uses MM6 gears. Although the MH3 gearset offers closer ratios than those found in the Z06, once again 6th is still an overdrive gear. It's just not quite as high (tall) as the 6th in the Z06.

Now, look at the differences between 1st thru 3rd...

'09 ZR1 TR6060 gear ratios...

First: 2.29
Second: 1.61
Third: 1.21
Fourth: 1.00
Fifth: 0.81
Sixth: 0.67
Reverse: 3.11
Final drive ratio: 3.42

'08 and '09 Z06 TR6060 gear ratios...

First: 2.66
Second: 1.78
Third: 1.30
Fourth: 1.00
Fifth: 0.74
Sixth: 0.50
Reverse: 2.90
Final drive ratio: 3.42

The ZR1s higher 1st - 3rd ratios are better suited to its greater horsepower and torque, whereas the Z06 is better off with its lower 1st - 3rd gears due to its lower h.p. and tq. and slightly higher redline rpm.

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Old 10-26-2008, 10:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
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6th gear in the ZR1 is still an overdrive gear, but it's a lower gear than 6th in the Z06, which is also an overdrive gear.

The TR6060 transmission in the ZR1 uses the MH3 gearset, whereas the Z06, which also uses the TR6060, uses MM6 gears. Although the MH3 gearset offers closer ratios than those found in the Z06, once again 6th is still an overdrive gear. It's just not quite as high (tall) as the 6th in the Z06.

Now, look at the differences between 1st thru 3rd...

'09 ZR1 TR6060 gear ratios...

First: 2.29
Second: 1.61
Third: 1.21
Fourth: 1.00
Fifth: 0.81
Sixth: 0.67
Reverse: 3.11
Final drive ratio: 3.42

'08 and '09 Z06 TR6060 gear ratios...

First: 2.66
Second: 1.78
Third: 1.30
Fourth: 1.00
Fifth: 0.74
Sixth: 0.50
Reverse: 2.90
Final drive ratio: 3.42

The ZR1s higher 1st - 3rd ratios are better suited to its greater horsepower and torque, whereas the Z06 is better off with its lower 1st - 3rd gears due to its lower h.p. and tq. and slightly higher redline rpm.
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I like getting good gas mileage in my Z06 with the double OD 6th gear ratio on the freeway. It also helps to cut down on engine and exhaust noise at correspondingly lower RPMs. Skip shift I could do without, but small price to pay for no gas guzzler tax.
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In my opinion, the real gift that the ZR1 gives to the Z06 is that it lowers the price of Z06's a little bit. I am seriously considering upgrading from my 03Z to a C6Z and the lower prices definately make it attractive for me!
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Re: People, Zr-1 Is A Gift To The Z0-6!!!!!

With ratios what they are, swapping a ZR1 tranny into a Z06 would HURT accelleration as the first 3 gears are ALL taller (numerically lower) with the same final drive ratio. So, please explain how this is a no brainer to swap trannies for C6 Z owners..............their car would be slower acceleration wise and on top of that would get worse gas mileage
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With ratios what they are, swapping a ZR1 tranny into a Z06 would HURT accelleration as the first 3 gears are ALL taller (numerically lower) with the same final drive ratio. So, please explain how this is a no brainer to swap trannies for C6 Z owners..............their car would be slower acceleration wise and on top of that would get worse gas mileage
Rain, that can't be true because when I said something similar in my previous post, I was told... "This is a TOTALLY no brainer here if u own a zo6." and ..."If u own a ZO6, u honestly would be a fool if u didnt get this transmission for your slend."

Plus I was also given a quick lesson in how transmissions work

How cool is that!

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With ratios what they are, swapping a ZR1 tranny into a Z06 would HURT accelleration as the first 3 gears are ALL taller (numerically lower) with the same final drive ratio. So, please explain how this is a no brainer to swap trannies for C6 Z owners..............their car would be slower acceleration wise and on top of that would get worse gas mileage
Have u ever4 shifted past the 3rd gear gear?? Life does exist past gear #3. If u dare to get out of your sub-division and hit the freeway, u might understand:pp:
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Have u ever4 shifted past the 3rd gear gear?? Life does exist past gear #3. If u dare to get out of your sub-division and hit the freeway, u might understand:pp:
3rd gear goes well into triple digits, right? Those neighborhood kids wouldn't stand a chance!
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