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Old 05-18-2008, 12:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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E55 w/500 rwhp beats modded Z06? Is this plausible?

Hi, all, new here, trying to get to the bottom of a quandary: Does anyone have any experience like this? To me, sounds like he ran a poseur or someone who was running diesel, but he swears up and down it was a real Z06 and he beat it multiple times. Here's a link to the thread on MBWorld:
OT - Anyone know of a C6 Z06 vs E55 on 5N? - MBWorld.org Forums

Anyone here run a modded E55? From what I've seen, the Z should win this one, hands down. :nix:
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Old 05-18-2008, 01:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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He must have been racing a C6 or maybe a C6 Z clone.

Btw, an E55 with pulley and nitrous can run consistent 10's.
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Old 05-18-2008, 01:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: E55 w/500 rwhp beats modded Z06? Is this plausible?

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He must have been racing a C6 or maybe a C6 Z clone.

Btw, an E55 with pulley and nitrous can run consistent 10's.
Several folks said it was probably a clone, but he said he ran into the guy again the other day & chatted w/him, and that it's definitely a Z06.

Yeah, I thought of spray, but he said he did this continuously, i.e. multiple runs, over 40 miles....so if he's got spray, he's got a big tank! It's also weird that he didn't get heat soak on that S/C, but maybe they took long pauses between runs, I dunno...by my numbers, horsepower to weight, he'd need more than the mods he lists, and more than 500 rwhp, to walk an in-tune Z06 like he's saying he did.
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Old 05-18-2008, 04:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: E55 w/500 rwhp beats modded Z06? Is this plausible?

He sounds like an 'internet' racer to me

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Old 05-18-2008, 05:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: E55 w/500 rwhp beats modded Z06? Is this plausible?

E55 curb weight is 3680. Assuming a 15% driveline loss 500 RWHP is good for 6.25Lbs/HP. Z06 at 3132 with 505 at the Crank comes out at 6.2Lbs/HP.

By the numbers, it could easily be a tight race...
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:30 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: E55 w/500 rwhp beats modded Z06? Is this plausible?

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E55 curb weight is 3680. Assuming a 15% driveline loss 500 RWHP is good for 6.25Lbs/HP. Z06 at 3132 with 505 at the Crank comes out at 6.2Lbs/HP.

By the numbers, it could easily be a tight race...
That's the curb weight for the older (W210) E55. He's got a W211, for which curb weight is 4,200 pounds (they added air suspension, few other luxuries, and the s/c, intercooler, etc.).

Also, near as we've figured it their driveline losses are around 18%. So it's more like 6.89 lbs/hp. Personally, w/that hp, I figure he should be able to make a good showing, but I'm having a hard time believing that he could let the Z get a jump and still run him down, as he claimed here:
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Hey Rock, I don't get it. What do you mean by knowing how? I know he was trying, so that aside are they all manuals, or something? We were going in a straigh line and just doing repeated blasts. We were playing for over 40 miles, seems like he would get one good run in. It got so bad that I would WAIT and let him take off first and just WALK him down.
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He sounds like an 'internet' racer to me

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Yeah, mebbe so....a bunch of us were bagging him about this, but he is saying that he'll run a Z06 and videotape it, so if anyone in/near San Diego would like to give him a run, I would love to see it happen!
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I hope someone takes him up on his offer.
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I hope someone takes him up on his offer.
You and me both!!

Any takers in the San Diego area?
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You and me both!!

Any takers in the San Diego area?
I ain't driving to California just to give a lesson but you can send him to KC if you want

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I ain't driving to California just to give a lesson but you can send him to KC if you want

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I'll post another thread and see if anyone from San Diego wants to thrash him. He's really talking lots of smack, implying that the Z06 owners don't have enough sack to show up and run him.
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Any San Diego owners interested in teaching this guy a lesson?

He's been over on the mbworld.org W211 E55 forum, claiming that his 4200 pound, 500 rwhp (supposedly, though he has no dyno) E55 not only pulled a C6 Z06 repeatedly, in multiple runs over a 40 mile stretch, but that "It got so bad that I would WAIT and let him take off first and just WALK him down."

Not only that, he claims to have met the guy the other day, and that the C6 Z06 in question is not stock, but has intake and exhaust mods.

Here's the thread:
OT - Anyone know of a C6 Z06 vs E55 on 5N? - MBWorld.org Forums

I'm hoping that someone in the San Diego area will volunteer to pwn this guy, because he's been a real jerk about this, repeatedly attacking me and many of his fellow E55 owners who have cars w/similar mods who have reported exactly the opposite.

If interested, please PM me and I'll pass it along. I would really love to see this dude eat some much-deserved crow!
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I'll post another thread and see if anyone from San Diego wants to thrash him. He's really talking lots of smack, implying that the Z06 owners don't have enough sack to show up and run him.
Naw, let's just keep this to one thread. It's a little too nonsensical to waste 2 threads on.



Threads merged....

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Re: Any San Diego owners interested in teaching this guy a lesson?

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He's been over on the mbworld.org W211 E55 forum, claiming that his 4200 pound, 500 rwhp (supposedly, though he has no dyno) E55 not only pulled a C6 Z06 repeatedly, in multiple runs over a 40 mile stretch, but that "It got so bad that I would WAIT and let him take off first and just WALK him down."
Oh. 4200 Lbs would make quite a difference vs. by 3680 calculation!

As for "walking" a Z06... I would bet there are plenty of "racers" out there who think they "walked" me. I'm getting in excess of 500HP to the ground in a car that weighs in at about 3300 Lbs with me on board. I simply don't feel a need to prove myself (and risk a ticket for racing, or worse) better than the 99% of the cars out there that simply have no chance. I mean, I get the "Speed Racer" syndrome all the time from the next lane when first in line at a stop light. I've had guys in Pickup Trucks want to race. I hardly ever bother. They probably all go home and tell their friends about how much faster they were than the Corvette.

Perhaps this legend-in-his-own-mind E55 owner just happened across a Z06 driver who figured "better to be a little behind this idiot than in front".

I will admit to "taunting" a Mustang myself, a few weeks ago. Revving at the red light. When the light went green, he *pounded* it hard as he could. Burnout, smoke show, the whole 9 yards. Me, I just pulled away at low throttle. I guess Mr. Mustang hadn't noticed the cop on the other side of the intersection. I am almost certain he enjoyed being written up though...
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Re: E55 w/500 rwhp beats modded Z06? Is this plausible?

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He sounds like an 'internet' racer to me

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Haha ya pretty much. I say who cares anyways.
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