Z06Vette.com - Corvette Z06 Forum - Bike (00 R6) Vs Car (01 Z06) the real story

normjack · 09-02-2002, 04:36 PM

After reading so many post about how basically stock Z06's were beating motorcycles, I myself could not believe it being a Sportbike rider myself. So I told my buddy about this and he said lets try it. We are both what I consider professional riders and excellent car drivers.

So we found a nice flat stretch of road thats 1.6 miles.
My buddy who weighs about 185lbs pulled out his 2000 Yamaha R6 (600cc) which has a pipe and jetkit and makes 107RWHP. And I pulled out the Z06 see sig for mods and RWHP.

We started from 2nd gear at 70mph, the R6 jumped out 10 cars instantly, 3rd gear he was still slightly pulling, 4th gear the gap locked, 5th gear I was pulling and catching him fast and right before the 1.6miles we marked I blew by him. 5th gear 6Krpms and the speedo registered 180mph. ( I powershifted every gear no mistakes)

We did not have enough time to do any different scenario roll-ons, like starting above 90mph.

But the conclusion here is the R6 with his weight tops out about 165mph and I did not catch him until he was topped out, so although I beat him, he beat me to his top speed.

Now I know for sure that a new generation 750 or better Sportbike will crush a basically stock Z06. A new GSXR750 piped and well tuned should run 180-185mph.

I'm gonna try it with his GSXR 750 next time and video the run.

BAD 06 · 09-02-2002, 04:39 PM

5th gear maybe?

gmblack3 · 09-02-2002, 05:02 PM

A while back I raced my buddy. He was on his R6 w/ a pipe and thats it. We started from about 80-90 (I think) he told me to go first so I did. He never passed me and he said I was pulling away at 145 or so. I went up to 160-165 and let off. So we did it again and I told him to go first but he would not. So I took off again and same results. I never got into 6th, you will loose all your acceleration when you shift into 6th. No powershifting required, because I can't.

normjack · 09-02-2002, 05:36 PM

Oops I made a typo. I was in 5th gear not 6th. I never shifted into 6th.

The results that I was trying to show was with a good sportbike rider vs a good Z06 driver.

Cali · 09-03-2002, 10:08 PM

I have done this 2x vx a R6 with Pipe and Jet. Once from a stop, once from a roll, the Stop was only to about 70. He had me by about 1 car. The roll was to 120, Side by side......

I'm not calling bs or anything... just think maybe the guy I was racing (2 different days, same guy) can't drive....

I raced a Bandit 600 the other day that hung/pulled slightly up to 80 the other day....

there is just no chance for cars... Bikes are light and 100+ hp now.

hummpdady · 09-04-2002, 02:54 PM

Normjack,

I would say your results are highly accurate. Give the R6 the nod until it tops out and here comes the Z. A gixxer 750 will prolly yield the same results, with the exception they top out a little higher.

In a top speed run the Z will eventually catch and pass a bike, with the exception of the big guns.

Sounds like you guys had a good little go of it there.

BTW, speaking of top ends, Friday I'm going to dance with a guy who has a Blackbird, he claims he can top out over the Busa,

we shall see

You guys be safe out there, are you still with the DCS?

70boss302 · 09-04-2002, 04:41 PM

This is a nice story.........truth be know, bikes are faster than a Z06. I don't have a problem with that as it is not apples to apples! Thanks for sharing a true story w/o edited BS! It's OK to lose to something as the Zee's aren't the faster or quickest out there, but for a car, they are DAMN FAST AND QUICK!

Bill

normjack · 09-05-2002, 07:10 AM

Hummpdady,

Yes I' still a member of DCSportbike although I'm not very active since I don't currently own a streetbike.

As for bike car comparison, its really a lopsidded race in favor of the bike even when matched with a Z06. But truth be told the Z06 is one bad ride and can hold its own.

timgt · 09-05-2002, 10:57 AM

One of my friends has a 2001 R6 and we mess around ALL THE TIME, because it is such a close race. He gets me in the first 2 gears and I get him in every gear after that. If we start on a quick roll like around 80mph or so he can not catch or pass me (he lets me hit it first). From a dead stop he eats me. From a 30-40mph roll he jumps out in front and I run him down past 100. but from 80 or higher he never passes me and I start to pull away up top. Z06's can beat bikes, i have beat ALOT of them, its just a matter of which bike and a matter of which bike rider. In total I have raced about 8 bikes and only got passed and beat by 2 of them, thats a pretty darn good percentage considering I have over 3000lbs to work with.

timgt · 09-05-2002, 01:16 PM

Yea right, if the bike rider knows what he is doing a Z06 can not out handle or out-turn a bike. That is one thing I am sure of.

normjack · 09-05-2002, 03:05 PM

Thats right modern day sportbikes will out handle the Z06 on any twisty road with a good rider.

zul8r · 09-11-2002, 10:55 PM

I dont even understand the point of comparing a bike to a Z. My damn 4-wheeler can beat a Z 0-40

But whats the point? 400lbs vs 3200lbs- thats a no brainer.

From a dead stop- qtr mile, unless the bike driver dont know how to drive worth crap, the Z will get beat everytime. Who cares about a 60mph roll- thats not a race

No flame intended- I just dont see what the point is.

I have messed around with bikes with my mustang- but I know from a dead stop I am toast, unless its at the drag strip and I have slicks on, but on the street I nor any Z has a chance.

sg

normjack · 09-16-2002, 01:48 PM

It looks like to me you got the point. That a stock Z06 has no chance against a modern day sportbike.

Unlike a few others who say they have whipped bikes. Maybe the riders were inexperienced.

erix · 09-22-2002, 01:57 AM

Yep Norm, your right. The guys on bikes that got beat had no idea what they were doing.

I also have to say, that the guys in the Z's that say they beat or hang with them may have just a bit of ignorance working for them as they dont understand sportbikes. Just those that are ignorant about cars dont know the difference between a Z06 and a standard vette. To those folks, I would say pick up a cycle magazine for a couple minutes and read the evals and testing. You will be enlightened.

Of course, I have to laugh when I see that you guys only ever see R6's. This is like hunting 6 cylinder mustangs. No sport in it, they are the slow pokes of their breed.

You guys need to look for the gixxers with the 1000 sticker on them or if you want an easier time or want your ass handed to you a bit gentler, then look for the ones with R1 stickers on their sides.

These are machines that sprint 0 to 140 in 9.9 seconds.

And yes, I do have a GSXR1000. I always laugh when I hear car guys talk about sticking with a bike or how they pick on dinky 600's.

Not knocking small bikes, but if you are talking bikes, go after the fast bikes, not the slower ones. Its more of a like comparison. If the Z is one of the fastest cars, then pick a bike of similar status for its type. Again, its not like you look for 6 cylinder Mustangs...do you?

As fars a the 750 or any bigger bike, the results would be much different as they have substantially more advantageous power to weight ratios, not just higher top end. And by the way, a 750 cannot run 180 unless its a full factory superbike or has a turbo. A 1000 with a pipe can run to its gearing limited top end of 182. Lets say an moded R6 has 107 RWHP, a 1000 with the same mods have about 160 RWHP but they weigh about the same. Do the math.

There is something to be said for being on top of the food chain, whether that is on 4 wheels or just 2.