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Old 01-19-2004, 08:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Brake Fluid for track use?

Any track guys with ideas on brake fluid? I just ordered Super Blue. Besides paying to much for brake fluid, does anyone have experience using this fluid? Also, how can I tell the dealer to change the brake fluid the right way, and not just add the Super Blue to existing fluid. I want a complete flush and refill. Putting in new HP + pads at same time. Any thoughts? Thanks.
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Old 01-19-2004, 09:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I use Motul RBF 600.
Dry boiling point 594 vs ATE Super Blue 536
Wet boiling point 421 vs ATE Super Blue 392

Motul RBF 600 is about $12 a bottle (half liter), so it isn't cheap, but it's about the best bang for the buck fluid out there. Castrol SRF probably the best, but at $69 a liter, a little more pricey, even on the bang for the buck scale.

Ask the dealer to do a brake system flush using the Tech II. The Tech II will activate the ABS and get all the old fluid out.
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SRF=Sold to Rich... you figure out the rest. It's good stuff but pricey! I'm running ATE Superblue, but agree with Subdriver that Motul is probably a little better.
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Another vote for the Motul 600, but the ATE is pretty good from what I hear. My dealer charge me $49 for a complete flush w/ Tech II. Just tell them exactly that - flush and fill, make sure to activate ABS w/ the Tech II. I ran the HP+ pads this past weekend at Sebring. They are better than stock, but they will fade once they get real hot. FYI, plan on picking up a set of rotors (fronts at least). I more or less trashed mine in 1 day. No need to get fancy ones, OEM's are cheaper in the long run. I have a set of NAPA fronts I'm going to try. They were cheap - $25.99! Have fun!
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putting the speed bleeders on is good too, can do a flush before track events on your own
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Any track guys with ideas on brake fluid? I just ordered Super Blue. Besides paying to much for brake fluid, does anyone have experience using this fluid? Also, how can I tell the dealer to change the brake fluid the right way, and not just add the Super Blue to existing fluid. I want a complete flush and refill. Putting in new HP + pads at same time. Any thoughts? Thanks.
The ATE Super Blue makes it really easy to flush the brake lines. If you want to make sure the fluid is flushed correctly, you can buy a brake bleeder kit from Autozone for ~$15. Speedbleeders are awesome, if you can spare any expense. Start bleeding from the furthest caliper away from the MC and work your way towards the closest. The great thing about the Super Blue is that it will be OBVIOUS when you have flushed the line. ATE also makes an Amber version so that you can flip back and forth.

WRT which brake fluid is better, it really depends on how much you track your car. Motul has higher wet and dry boiling points, but is also more hydroscopic (absorbs more water) and will need to be flushed more often. For hardcore road racers, this is a no-brainer ... but for those of us who only see occasional track duty and/or mostly auto-x, the ATE is more than enough. For light track duty, the ATE and the HP+'s should be okay.

BTW, pick up some wheel cleaner the next time you're at the store. HP+'s dust like a muthaf***er.
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Start bleeding from the furthest caliper away from the MC and work your way towards the closest. The great thing about the Super Blue is that it will be OBVIOUS when you have flushed the line. ATE also makes an Amber version so that you can flip back and forth.
Note the bleed order is RR, LF, LR and RF on 01 and newer vettes as per the GM manual.

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Note the bleed order is RR, LF, LR and RF on 01 and newer vettes as per the GM manual.
Sorry for the ignorant question, but is that r & l as from the driver's view or looking at the car from the front?
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SRF make Motul look like crap and it is worth the money for hard use.
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Sorry for the ignorant question, but is that r & l as from the driver's view or looking at the car from the front?
Yes, as if you were in the drivers seat.
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Thanks guys! One week before race day and I have confidence in my decisions with brake fluid and new ideas. I learned about the Tech II to activate the ABS and the Motul for future race application. I love this Forum!!!!! Thanks for the correct order in which to flush the brakes too! Andy.
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