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Old 02-01-2004, 06:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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C5R Teams at Sebring....

I ran HPDE with Nasa this Saturday, 1/31, and it was a blast ! Great organization, great folks, and fast cars rule.

Like their last event in Dec., many "monster budget trailers" (the kinds that stow cars in the top of the rig, come with elevator gates, come with crews and their own tent/paddocks, etc.).... This is a sure sign that fun is forecast, if you are privileged to run with them in the open passing/instuctor group!

Jim and Mike McCann (Viper Racing League) doing some testing... and fun to run with.. Very fast and professional crew, nice folks.....

The big surprise was seeing the C5R Teams getting ready for 12 hours in March! Nice to see the cars in Yellow in Black again... the Blue at Lemans last year seemed out of place based on prior success in Yellow. The crew teams were cool, letting folks get up close to the cars and their trailers for pictures and peeks.

Looks like they will be running Michelins again this year. The Michelin trailers pulled along side and were installing tires on 2-3 dozen of their rims, dedicated -- all day long.

The C5R guys never did out on the track with us-- bummer!!! I think they were going to do some night/rain weather testing after NASA's last run group. But Ron Fellows and Johnny O were running around, busy, prepping, making adjustments. Guys-- if hard work is any indication of this year's success, then these guys will do very well....

I asked one of the guys (crew) if they had many any mods to make up some ground on the Ferrari's ..... Ans.. "Oh Yeah" Wink. Wink. I did not press for an elaboration. We will all have to wait and see.

My wife and daughter got the tour also, and they managed to get me both Ron Fellows and Johnny O's autographs on my left fuel rail cover !!!

Sorry I did not get any digital pictures. My wife shot some on film, and I will scan them if they develop well.

The track day was great, despite the rain. I am actually becoming more and more fond of the rain. The big MPS Sports kick butt in the puddles, and I think it is a "great equalizer" for me against cars with mega more power and slicks/race rubber on dry days. My rain lap lap times are now faster than my first weekends at Sebring in the dry. It never ceases to amaze me how the car can stick on a wet deck if the inputs are smooth, rolling throttle, etc.

Not so fortunate for some others... We started with about 9 Z06s and lost the only car of the day (another Red Z06) in the first instructor session.... He was running with me and the McCanns Vipers in pack, a few other cars and a black 427 Z... Not sure how he lost it..??? We had run about 2 warm up laps and were walking a pretty slow pace.. 2:45s, still building.... but his tires were likely still too cold, the race line still damp in spots. Looks like he looped it coming out of the Collier Curve between 11 and 12, unfortunately it was the part where the rubber tires end, and the concrete begins.... He nailed the right wall with front and then rear... Lots of body work coming but hopefully nothing serious to the frame. He left lots of Torch Red paint on that wall. Driver OK! The black flags came out and that wiped out that session.

At his wife's request... no names mentioned... I hope he has a speedy restoration ! [A while back TIMZ06 posted some slobird videos on his site where he lost it in exactly the same spot... Tim did a great job of recovery and spun off harmless into the left grass... The right side is not so forgiving.]

On the way back from Sebring, I went by Daytona and could hear the 24 hours at Rolex from the highway... We stopped for dinner, and I had thoughts of trying to get in and watch a little, perhaps get Heinricy to sign my other Fuel rail cover... ;-) [See my other post about Fellows vs. Heinricy]... I figure that I might as well let my fuel rail covers decide... ;-)

Anyway, we were all tired from a long track day and decided to head home and watch the rest of the race from the couch !!!

Racing in FL was good this weekend !!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope you enjoyed some part my half time rambling...

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Old 02-01-2004, 06:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Nice post Joe! Pretty to get your fuel rail covers signed!

The C5R team painted the cars LeMans Blue for the LeMans race only..that was intentional.

The reason you saw the C5R team at Sebring this weekend, and the reason they didn't take to the track was also intentional......they plan testing the week of February 2nd...you might want to return to Sebring this week...don't forget your camera!

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Old 02-01-2004, 08:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Love reading your track day summaries Joe.
Sounds like you had another great day. Wish Sebring wasn't so far...

I went out and started my car today to get some satisfaction.
But, the UPS man did come Friday with off season preventative maintenance items; four new calipers, four new rotors, new front T1 a-arms, new front wheel bearings and some misc nuts and bolts. Now I am waiting for a warm weekend...
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Zippy ---Cool...

Not doubting your info that they are testing all week, but those dudes looked like they were ready rock immediately.

In the morning, Ron Fellows was running around in shorts. By 1pm, both he and Johnny O had full race suits on. I can't imagine they would go to that level of preparation knowing they were not going out that day... Why change clothes? I wouldn'y get into my monkey suit if I was not planning on driving. I should have asked, but the best guess was that they saw the weather coming in and thought about running a rain set up in the evening. Most of the tires stacked up ready to mount were rains. Rain forecast likely all week, so not saying much....


Brad-- Thanks. Why replace T-1 A arms after 1 season? Do they crack?
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Brad-- Thanks. Why replace T-1 A arms after 1 season? Do they crack?
The rubber in the bushings gets beat up and GM Performance Parts won't sell just the bushings!
The new a-arms sure are pretty though.

If I ever give up T1 and want to switch to polyurethane bushings, I have a small collection of front a-arms ready to go.
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Joe great writeup!

I now know why I went off track in that area. I was running race tires on the front and street tires on the rear. That made my car oversteer. (I tried this at vir with the elevation change and it was so scary I only did two laps before I decided to pull off.)

I went to do a 3-4 shift and lifted off the throttle, taking the weight off the rear made the rear come around pointing the car at the outside wall. I tried to straighten it out and overcompensated sending the car towards the inside of the track. THen I realized I was going off and locked em up. I can see how someone would just do the first part and end up in the inside wall if I hadn't locked em up it would have shot me right across. I was lucky there. Now I shortshift into 4th before hitting that turn.

Man you sure are getting a lot of time at sebring, I'm in trouble when I come back in april!

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