Hey folks, just set up a dyno appointment with Automotive Performance Engineering in Clinton Township, Michigan for a run to get some hp and tq numbers.
I am really excited, just beause i am so curious to what my car puts out to the wheels.
I dont want to have a high expectation, and then get bumed.
What do you guys think i will put down as far as tq and hp numbers?
and, anybody around the area want to meet up next tuesday?
Thanks guys.
p.s.- the guy asked if i wanted a tune up, and i said no.
I said no because i wanted to check with you guys if t is worth the $. he said like $450 (i think that is what he said) which includes the dyno and the tune up. he said to expect anywherefro 10-18 hp with the light mods that i have on my car with the tune. is this true? is it worth the extra cash?
Lotsa data on the site, but I would guess around 340-345.
Just wanted to add one data point on the "tune up". At a shop near Atlanta (closest one I know of to me), I have been quoted $600 for PCM tune up, incl dyno. This shop does not have their own dyno, and must go nearby to another shop. With some intake mods (like yours, which is very similar to mine), I have been told I could expect around 10-15. I have dyno'ed mine as is and found that the AFR at WOT was running very rich (around 11). This was measured using a tail pipe sniffer and I have been told that the cats remove about 0.5 AFR. Therefore, my "true AFR" must be even richer around 10.5. At $450, I'd do it. FWIW. Good luck.
if you got rid of the pup cat's you would be more in that range. That's one of the major changes that makes the 01 and 02 diffrent. Now if you did headers (which gets rid of the pups) you could get 18-20 with a tune over you current setup. I'm sure your running rich and are about in the 345 range. So you should be in the 365 range with a tune and some headers, maybe more!
Check out the data available and look for same year and same mods. Since I have an 02, I generally don't pay attention to the 01 data, which seem to run about 15 lower than 02. My 02 dynoed with stock program at 356rwhp and 348 rwtq. I have only the Volant twin intake. Some cars do better than others with same mods.
Regarding the warranty, some dealers have a problem with this and some don't, depending on what went wrong with your car to get you there. If you have problem with an engine part which they believe is impacted by the PCM reprogram, then you have a problem. The best arrangement (it's only money, right??) is to have LS1 Edit software so you can save the stock program to reload if you need to go in for service, then reload the special "tuned" program when you get home. You would need a laptop and LS1 Edit (approx $550). I don't have that, but the shop I plan to go to can reload the original program and also offers free follow up tuning, if I go back and have other mods installed by them. Check with your shop to see if they will offer a similar deal. This may be important if you plan to add mods over time.
I have an 01 Z, Stingers, and a K&N airfilter.
i put 340 hp tp the wheels and 346 lb of torque.
I really want to show you guys the graph. how can i post it? cani e mail some1 so they can post it?
By the way, i am not sure why this guy that dynoed my car said what he said, but he said that 340 hp is the best he has seen for an 01 . He said typiclly he sees 330-333 tops with an exhaust. He was reall surprised. Is this true?
I mean, i hear stock 01's putting out 345-350, why is is that this guy said what he said? does that make sense?
My 01 stock came in at 331.0 rwhp.
This is pretty normal.
I've see some #s alittle higher and some a little lower.
You might want to check my dyno sheets by clicking on the link in my sig.
my 01 z when i dynoed it bone stock i got 357 also there was another 01 z there who dynoed 355 ... dont remember my torque but i have the dyno chart somewhere.... whats the temps like when you are dynoing the cars
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01 QS Z06
bone stock except for that little F1R procharger bolted in and cartek clutch...
520 rwhp
455 rwtq
Last edited by tonybrasco : 12-17-2002 at 09:30 PM.
Tony, 357 on a bonestock '01!! Damn, dude, you started off with a factory beast. Sounds kinds like bparkers bonestock '02 getting 365. You guys lucked out and got the top 'o the litter. Congrats!!
ok, here is the deal..i dont know if this guy was on some crack or what, haha.
He said that most every 02 that he dynoed, he got in the 330s somewhere. He said there was one he dynoed at 345, and that was the best he has seen. why is this? does being in MI effect the numbres? I dynoed my car today with in 35 degree weather. so it was pretty much freezing.
FRC Tom, i see in your stock 01, you dynoed 336/337.
Well i put Stingers and a K&N flter, and i got 340 hp and 346 torque. I was hopig for more, but didn get it. Cani e mail my graph to anyone so they can post it? and can some1 explain to me why he said what he said about the dyno umbers, and 340 on an 01 with an exhaust was the best he has seen??
P.S.- he said with Procharger and all the tunning it needs when putting it on, i should be around 440 to the wheels..does that sound about right? they also wanted $8500 for the procharger installed and out the door. (this includes the clutch, tunning, everything equired for me to leave and not have to worry about doing anything to my car) does that sound about right as far as hp and price?
that is kind of dissaponting, that i put only 340 with the stingers and a K&N airfilter. i know that isnt much, but if stock to the filter puts out 339 to whatever on average, and i put up 340 with exhaust and filter, thats crappy. oh well, its time for a ProCharger, but first i gotta go to the bank and rob them for $8500//LOL.
I am still trying to figure out why he said that is one of the best he has seen, and why he said that 02's that he had dynoed get anyhere from 330 to 345 hp. Anybody can guess at that? That doesnt make any sense ot me.
Zlicious, running the ATI P1-SC with no head work and running about 5lbs boost, that sounds pretty close. Which clutch is he recommending? Also, I would recommend lt headers of some kind. You know....air in/air out.
Also, just a suggestion, sure don't want to spoil any enthusiasm....research this forum and the vendors for info and ideas before committing to the Procharger install. Not saying that is not the way to go, just saying look at all the cards on the table before you bet.
Hey Mike, thanx. when i asked the guy what he recommends, he didnt even hesitate before he said the procharger. As far as the clutch, i didnt talk to him about that. I am not sure what kind.
If i do decide to go with this setup, i will end up going with the FLP headers, as i hear they are a great set. This is of course after i save half my life away. LOL. i go to school, so i dont have much $. Well, the fact that i dont work might be a problem too, LOL. But with the headers and he procharger, approx. 450 rwhp sounds pretty quick to me, man that would be fun to drive.
Also, he said he would add 8 lbs of boost to what i already have stock. i am not good with this stuff, but that is what he said. "8 lbs of boost is what we will add"
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