Fantasy Race: Stock Zo6 Vs 2002 Ford Mustang Bullitt W/mods
For laughs in support of a friendly family rivalry. Mike Rudy & Mike Rudy would like to submit to our respective forums a proposed fantasy race.
Ground Rules: two events, a quarter mile drag race & a 20 mile road race at a SCAA approved course. Each forum will review the cars and drivers and post a response on this thread with their opinions as to who would win. A split decision is OK (e.g., Bullitt wins drag; ZO6 wins road race). Having driven both cars, that would be a likely outcome IMHO. After several weeks we'll (Mike&Mike) tabulate the results and post on their respective thread/forums.
Cars:
2002 Z06
Mileage: 2000
Bone stock: 405HP; 400lbs ft. tq. as advertised
Weight: 3115lbs
2002 FORD MUSTANG BULLITT W/MODS
Mileage: 10,050
Vortech S Trim SQ with Custom SuperChip
Ford Motorsport Ceramic Coated Headers
Bassani X Pipe & CatBack
Ford Racing Performance Parts Alum. Drive Shaft & 3.73s gears
Steeda Tri-Ax Short Throw Shifter, AutoMeter Gauges (Boost/Fuel)
Stock 265 HP; Last Dyno Run 372 rw/HP (SAE corrected for Denver altitude) at 6000 RPMs and 368 lbs. tq. at 4800 RPMs
A/F Ratio is 11.7 to 11.9 at upper RPSs
PSI with the blower is max. 9.5 at 5,500 to 6,000 RPMs
Weight: 3,370 lbs, and the Vortech is about 45 lbs
Background on drivers (assumed to be equal (LOL)) :
Mike Rudy #1 Z06 owner, uncle of Mike Rudy #2
Mike Rudy #2 Bullitt owner, nephew of Mike Rudy #1
Bullit Mustang in my home town. Trust me, no contest on ANY playing field! 1/4 mile, top spped, 30-60, 60-90, 0-100-0, etc, etc inc "gaulk" factor! The Bullit is a nice car, but it is no Z06, at half the price! Bill
The heavily modded BUllit should I would guess win.
.Hell a hopped hyndai (sp) coupe on race tires beat a porsche boxster around a race track..I think that car was only a second or two slower..than the Z..I remember it was on like Motor Trend television or something..Not that the Bullit Mustang is like a Hyundai or anything but it just sort of reminded me of the modded..vs stock thing..
Which would you prefer? Obviously we' d most probably choose the z and if you added these mods to a stock Z..you'd spend a few more bucks..yada..yada..yada..but it would then be equal..Moded vs moded..so to speak..
Sometimes money is not the only priority..
I do look foward to the new Mustang coming out in 2004 or 2005..
Ask your friend if there is an internet site where we could possibly dig up some really good inside information on the upcoming model....
I believe the existing mustang. also a true american icon... although very cool has been around a long..long time in its present form.. Time for a change..
Who do I vote for? ZO6!! Win lose or draw in this contest.. & Remember we're biased!
William Clay Ford Jr., chairman of Ford Motor Co., spent three hours with Ford dealers Tuesday and then zoomed up to Cranbrook House in Bloomfield Hills for a muggy, buggy outdoor dinner with the automotive press.
"We're here," he said, "to dispel the notion that the product pipeline is empty."
Ford is tired of reading that his company has no fresh car and truck designs coming to market in the next few years.
So this week, he brought key dealers and 240 journalists to Ford's Romeo test track and Dearborn design center for a sneak peek at future Ford vehicles and the technology behind them.
I'd love to tell you what's coming, but I can't. It's a secret, or at least the stuff beyond the 2003 model year is a secret. Journalists were told the sneak peek was on "deep background." I'm not sure precisely what that means, but one Ford guy hinted that I shouldn't even acknowledge I was there.
Understandably, Ford doesn't want to leak product details to competitors, who might copy them, or to customers, who might delay purchases if they get too excited about future models.
But Bill Ford clearly wants the media to use the secret info. We may not be able to write about what we saw, but he certainly hopes we STOP saying that Ford's product pipeline is empty.
Better priorities
At the muggy, buggy dinner Tuesday, as others scrambled to sit near Ford, I pulled up a chair alongside J Mays.
Mays, Ford's vice president of design, is sometimes mistaken for a European because he spent 14 years at Audi and Volkswagen. But Mays, 47, is really an Okie, from Maysville, Okla., a small town settled by his ancestors and where his parents still live.
Though hired by deposed CEO Jacques Nasser, Mays appears very much at ease working with the new regime of Bill Ford and Nick Scheele, Ford's president and chief operating officer. Mays says he sees "just enough" of Ford and Scheele in the design studio. Translation: somewhat less than he saw of Nasser, who had a reputation as a micromanager.
Ford's "back to basics" turnaround mantra has put product design and quality at the top of the company's priority list. So Mays, although he doesn't have a blank check from the brass, does feel he has a receptive and enthusiastic audience for new ideas.
Seeing is believing
Mays shared a telling story about the GT40 supercar that Ford plans to build in limited numbers next year.
Last fall, Mays was pitching the revival of the fabled 1960s-era racing car to Scheele; a concept version was already planned for the January 2002 auto show in Detroit. But Scheele wasn't sure about funding a production version of the GT40. Ford Motor was gushing red ink and executives were making tough decisions about closing plants and cutting thousands of jobs.
One day in early December, Mays was bending Scheele's ear again about the GT40. Scheele was still on the fence.
Come downstairs and let me show you something, Mays told him. Mays took him down to Scheele's own parking spot in the executive garage, where a gleaming GT40 prototype sat. "Bleep, you've got me," Scheele said.
Result: Ford will build a few hundred 500-horsepower GT40s next year.
Mays hints that other cool designs are being green-lighted by Scheele and Ford. I'd tell you more, but they'd have to shoot me.
I am the resident Mustang/Blue Oval guy here...and in this case there is no chance the Bullitt is gonna win either race...unless Uncle misses a shift or two.
The blown-Bullitt has 20hp more, but the TQ curve of the centrifugal S-trim blower is more peaky than the Z06's engine combo and the difference in power will only be realized at the top of the powerband. Doesn't really matter though b/c the Z06 weighs less and has better aerodynamics (not a huge deal in a drag race, but enough to be noted).
I'd be curious what the Bullitt would run on slicks. Probably mid, low-12s @ 108-109mph. The Z06 is still faster than this on stock F1 radials.
As far as the road course goes, there is no chance the Bullitt will hang here. Sorry.
Sweet car, but it isn't a fair race even with its mods against the Z06.
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Uncle Rudy is going to tear this one UP! I seriously think the Bullitt will have to have NOS to take the Z. I've taken many a Bullitt in my SS, and I've had my arse handed to me by many a Z.
JMo
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Yo, bro's, all I will say is that if a COBRA won't hang with a Z06, why do you think a "Bullit" will? Hey, I like the Bullit Stang and almost bought one (the papers where wriiten!), but suddenly, by God's will, a Z06 was offered and I bought it. No contest as my near neighbor with the "Bullit" can attest! By the Z06 and smile forever!! Bill
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Bill 
Yo, bro's, all I will say is that if a COBRA won't hang with a Z06, why do you think a "Bullit" will? Hey, I like the Bullit Stang and almost bought one (the papers where wriiten!), but suddenly, by God's will, a Z06 was offered and I bought it. No contest as my near neighbor with the "Bullit" can attest! By the Z06 and smile forever!! 
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