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Old 09-21-2005, 11:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Feedback?? No Problem Raceway, Gingerman, Putnam Park, and Beaverrun

Was curious if anyone knows anything about these tracks.
Fun level?? Safety level?? Hard on brakes??

Worth a 8 hour drive??

Any feedback would be great.
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Old 09-21-2005, 01:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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GingerMan is a really nice track. Lots of run off room. Turn one is blind left hander following a rise in the main straight, 2 is a carousel, 3 is downhill blind right hander leading onto a kink (4) and left hand sweeper (5). The 5-6 combination is like a double apex decreasing radius with mild elevation changes. 7,8,9, is a sequence. 10 is over 90 right hand leading onto a 1/4 mile down hill straight. 11 is RH and runs slightly uphill to start finish line. Speeds 30-110 in Z06. Mostly 3rd & 4th gear.

No quite as technical as Grattan, but lots of fun.

Nice facility. Decent restaurants & lodging in South Haven.

Hope this helps.
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Putnam is very fun and very safe. Tons of runoff everywhere with only one turn (10) that you could find a wall.

1.7mi, 10 turn, mostly flat with on and off camber turns. Lots of right-handers. All 3-4 unless you grab second in 7. 40-130mph. Good surface, and you can see the entire track from the tower.

Pretty fun, but not ultra varied. VERY safe. Popular, so some events have traffic.

1/2 mile straight, turn 1 is a fast right into 2, a slower right with decreasing radius. 2-4 is a sequence requiring a tap of brake before turn 4 (a fast left). Short chute to 5 (similar to 1), WOT through kink (6) to a tight slow right (7). 8 is a carousel off camber up a little hill. 9-10 are really a big wide right.
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Great thanks this helps a bunch.
Although both sound good so which is better??
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Probably Gingerman
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I've been to both Putnam and G'man in a Z06. I think both are great and are well suited to the car. Plenty of run off room on either track they each really have just one corner (last corner before front straight) where there is a guard rail somewhat close to the track.

As for the brakes - you should get some race pads, good fluid, and ideally a set of front brake ducts. I would also recommend getting a set of race tires and a good alignment.

If you're know what you're doing you should be under 1:34 at G'man and under 1:19 at Putnam.

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Old 09-22-2005, 09:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Have done the brake setup already.
Are you saying these tracks are much harder on brakes than other tracks??

Anyone ever been to No Problem in LA??
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:20 AM   #8 (permalink)
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no they're average on brakes, if anything you may want to get the GMPP trans cooler - if you run for more than 20 mins you'll get high trans temp warning. not sure if it has anything to do with spending a lot of time at the top of 3rd gear on these tracks.
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:51 AM   #9 (permalink)
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If you're know what you're doing you should be under 1:34 at G'man and under 1:19 at Putnam.

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On race rubber that is.
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:38 PM   #10 (permalink)
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On race rubber that is.
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Old 09-23-2005, 08:12 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I've been to Gingerman and Grattan.
for me...Gingerman is harder on brakes and tires...
I like both places...lots of run off space
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