HANS vs the Collar

[Olitho]

Alignment changes, harness and roll-bar were the first additions to my car....

[RC45]

Originally Posted by RC45

In my amatuer laymans mind, non-rollcage car equiped with a 5/6 point harness, helmet and HANS device would seem to be the safest option.

Originally Posted by ibismojo

i wouldn't assume that.

Way to go taking a comment out of context.


In my amatuer laymans mind, non-rollcage car equiped with a 5/6 point harness, helmet and HANS device would seem to be the safest option.

...safest option...

...safest option...

...compared to a non-rollcage equipped car and a helmet and 3 point seat belt.

Allow me to repeat his again...

...compared to a non-rollcage equipped car and a helmet and 3 point seat belt.

and again...

...compared to a non-rollcage equipped car and a helmet and 3 point seat belt.

and again...

...compared to a non-rollcage equipped car and a helmet and 3 point seat belt.

Uhm - we all know a roll cage equipped car is the safer - and when coupled with a fire suppresion system, head and neck restraint and full harness is the safest option

We determined that 407 pages and 2301 posts back.

We (at least I) have been discussing what option makes a non rollcage equiped car safer.

And I have yet to have seen anything posted that supports the theory that if youdon't have a roll cage why bother with anything else.

So - having determined that is the point under discussion - is it not reasonable to assume that a harness, helmet and neck and head restraint in a non-rollcage euipped car is safer than a 3 point seat belt and helmet only.

I mean, these are legitimate concerns - and to make the statement or assume that nobody uses a roll-cage-less car at a tarckday or HPDE is just silly.

[sarcasm]Of course we already know that those of use without rollcages are doomed to perish in fiery rollover accidents by the dozen - and our harnesses and helmets and HANS devices will be of no use... because of course thats the onyl type of accident that has ever occured at a DE[/sarcasm]

Anyway - I am done with the thread - so much for a great educational discussion.

[ibismojo]

i'm not taking anything out of context. when i said "I wouldn't assume that" isn't to say that no, your assumption is wrong...but simply my opinion about the matter. no need to assume anything else. we all assume the same risks in the activities we choose to do, so there shouldn't be any surprises to the consequences. if you want to say harnesses/HANS and helmet is the safest option for a non-caged car, then that is your opinion.

[Olitho]

Hey you guys! This has been a great thread so far, but now I think it is time to go settle this on the track.


What is a good track somewhere between Houston and San Diego? Phoenix...? Anything good in New Mexico?

[speedpup]

Originally Posted by Arnoldir

Just my 2 cents,

I'm daily driving a Z with full T-1 cage, aside from loosing the door speakers I find it to be quite comfortable and civilized.

Yes, I did have to add some expensive materials ($200) to pad out the cage for un-helmeted head protection but I'm a very happy camper overall.

The cost and time for the cage install was less than I expected, and I have much more confidence in every driving situation now.

Yes I cut up a valuable car, but I never intended to sell it so the decrease in resale had no bearing on my choices.

Anyone in, or passing through the LI NY area is welcome to drop me a note and arrange a ride or drive to see if it's the solution for them.

Now you are good to go on the LIE it's worse driving on the streets than the track on Long Island. I am ready to cage my dooley.