LG Spindle Brackets - I need some help (pictures)...
I'm pretty sure I have the LG spindle brackets destined for the proper locations and orientation, but I wanted to check. If I have things correct there appears to be a bit of force-fitting necessary.
The pictures are of the left steering knuckle, and of course you are seeing what is the back side. Do I have the proper bracket on this? It seems like the only way it would fit. This arrangement would bring the air duct in from the top and from the front of the knuckle/hub assembly. Correct?
The red indicates an area where the duct connector on the LG bracket comes into contact with the steering knuckle casting.
Should I simply dimple the LG bracket enough so it fits into place?
Thanks for the help!
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Is this a whole new spindle or just a bracket to hold the brake duct?
It's just a bracket that is "sandwiched" between the steering knuckle and spindle hub.
I bought a DRM front brake duct extension kit - it extends the hard plastic factory ducts so that you can get the airflow around the back side of the wheel. The DRM kits also have flex-duct to get the air flow all the way to the spindle. The LG spindle brackets accept the flex-duct and get the air directed to the center of the rotor, where the air can cool both sides.
I go to road courses for DE's and open lapping time. Since I go out like I'm chasin' snakes most of the time I want the best brake cooling I can get up front.
They can be yours for the low, low price of only $179.95! But wait, there's more!!! You also get, at no additional charge, the opportunity to install them without instructions, AND as an added bonus, you get to modify them so they actually fit!!!!
I think I answered my own question regarding making it fit.
I put the three bolts back on and torqued them to 130 ft-lbs like the shop manual calls for - that pretty much squished the LG bracket where it needed to!
Let me know how they work for you Dave. I assume that you drove the car with the DRM duct extentions. I have been debating making a set of these from scratch as $180 is alot of cheese for what they are.
Let me know how they work for you Dave. I assume that you drove the car with the DRM duct extentions. I have been debating making a set of these from scratch as $180 is alot of cheese for what they are.
I will see you @ Mid-Ohio next week.
Hey James. No, I am installing both the DRM ducts and the LG brackets for the first time.
I think the left side is on. I hope I did it right!
Looks like you read the GM service manual...you don't need to take the whole knuckle off the car. Just separate the lower ball joint so you can get to the wheel bearing bolt hiding behind the ball.
Anyway, it looks like you got it right. After it is on the car, with the rotor and brakes installed, you will have to bend it a bit to get the closest rotor fit you are comfortable with.
Check the wheel clearances at full lock. I found that the DRM ducts need to be as low as possible (and jammed into he shock mounts) to get lock to lock without rubbing the duct extensions. I believe GM does a horrible job placing the shock mounts (at least on my car) as they are on weird and different angles on both sides.
You will also hate the hose fit. The DRM hose is much larger than the LG spindle duct fitting. I just wrapped my spindle duct with friction tape until the fit was close. Others have obtained smaller hose that fits the LG spindle ducts and slips inside the DRM duct extension. I will do this after the DRM hose starts to wear.
They do work. What are you doing for brakes now that you have all that cooling?
Good luck
Last edited by kmagvette : 05-17-2005 at 09:15 PM.
Check the wheel clearances at full lock. I found that the DRM ducts need to be as low as possible (and jammed into he shock mounts) to get lock to lock without rubbing the duct extensions. I believe GM does a horrible job placing the shock mounts (at least on my car) as they are on weird and different angles on both sides.
You will also hate the hose fit. The DRM hose is much larger than the LG spindle duct fitting. I just wrapped my spindle duct with friction tape until the fit was close. Others have obtained smaller hose that fits the LG spindle ducts and slips inside the DRM duct extension. I will do this after the DRM hose starts to wear.
They do work. What are you doing for brakes now that you have all that cooling?
Good luck
Thanks for the input! I am to the point where I am going to be securing the DRM ducts in place and I will follow your lead there.
The only other brake related projects have been Motul fluid, speed bleeders, SS lines (w/ AN fittings) and Carbotech XP10/XP9 pads.
You are leaving the point that I have not yet approached ... because of reservations about experience such as yours.
I assume that neither IndyDave nor respondents took a hard look at the Phoenix spindle duct mounts and eliminated them from consideration?
From the pics of the DRM ducts it appears that one really does have to surgically attach them to the cut stock inlet ducts ... any advice there?
I don't see the DRM ducts fixed to the inner fender ... but I assume there is something that attaches to the fender?
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Indy,
I just went through the same enjoyable experience. If you don't have patience before you start, you will, hopefully, have it when you're done with this project. I, too, used the smaller size hose to fit inside the hose provided with the DRM ducts. Dmtnt has a post on this somewhere, I believe.
Denny,
Fitting to the oem ducts is the easiest part of this operation. I just sliced a one inch cut on either side of the inlet of the DRM duct where it meets the oem ducts and popped a rivet or two to hold them together, along with some duct tape to seal them up. The DRM duct is attached to the inner fender with a self-tapping screw that comes with the kit. Can't see it at the angle of Indy's pic, if it's in there already.
I have to say, as I was doing this project on one side, it made the other side that much easier.
Oh yeah, I also cobbled together a neat fix for the abs sensor mount using the original bracket/fastener. I cut away the vast majority of the original bracket leaving the fastener and one bolt hole. I then trimmed that down to fit in and bolt to the forward bolt that holds the spindle/duct assembly together. It fit nice and uses the original clip to hold the sensor connector in place.
Last edited by flipper58 : 05-18-2005 at 12:17 PM.
My last pic shows the DRM duct hanging loose. No self-tapper used yet.
kmagvette had some good input on where they go to avoid wheel rub.
I am a bit perplexed regarding fixing the DRM ducts in place without the car on the groud so that the suspension is fully compressed. Once the car is on the ground, there is no way I can get under it - it seems like a catch-22 scenario.
I guess I'll fix them as low as possible and see how it goes!
Flipper, what was your experience on where the DRM ducts should be nailed down?
I used the Phoenix brake duct spindle as attaching it was just a simple tap of a pre-existing hole.
As for the mating up of the duct hosing between the DRM units and the duct spindle, well, that was no walk in the park. I ended up securing them all with the stainless loops provided, tap screws, and a healthy dose of Minnesota scotch tape!
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