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Old 01-05-2005, 12:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Titanium wheel hardware

Getting ready to order my CCW's and was wondering if its a good idea to get the titanium bolts vs. stainless steel. I don't race, only do DE's so the performance isn't all that important unless its significant. Any difference in strength between Ti and SS? I'd prefer to go with the stronger of the two for longevity/safety. Thanks!
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Old 01-05-2005, 12:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Titanium Wheel Lug Nuts and Studs?




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Strength
135,000 psi ( 930 Mpa) Ultimate Strength
115,000 psi ( 790 Mpa) Yield Strength
About 10 - 15% stronger than Cr-Mo steel
And three times as strong as 6061 Al - T6

Density
0.162 lbs/in_ (4.48 gm/cm_)
45% lighter than steel and 65% heavier than aluminum Strength to Weight Ratio
Based on Yield Strength divided by Density
74% higher than 6061 - T6 Aluminum
102% higher than 4130 Cr-Mo steel
(the most common form of steel used in bike frames)

Elastic Modulus
15.0 x 106 psi (10.3 x 104 Mpa)
50% higher than aluminum alloys and
50% lower than steel alloys

Corrosion Resistance
Excellent in all natural water and saltwater environments
Unlike steel, titanium will never rust and
will not pit, corrode or deteriorate in salt water like
aluminum alloys

Toughness
Titanium has good fracture Toughness
Ti resists damage from impact unlike composite materials

Fatigue Resistance
Excellent for both high and low cycle fatigue.
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Cliff notes, please??
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Cliff notes, please??
I added that just because I think its cool.
In case you can't tell, I got all that crap from a bicycle site. :oo:
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Thanks IT L GO, I did see that thread, but it's specific to wheel studs and nuts. What I'm referring to is the hardware on CCW's 3-piece track wheels. The info in the thread you posted is very helpful, but looking for specific info on the wheel hardware vs the studs.
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I added that just because I think its cool.
In case you can't tell, I got all that crap from a bicycle site. :oo:
Wasn't sure if it was bicycles or motorcycles, but kind of figured the former. Not too many titanium-framed motorcycles that I know of.

Go figure, the one stat I guess would be relevant would be shear strength and you didn't list that.
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You guys should know by now that I'm full of information and all of it is useless.
Try this LINK
Or this ONE

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I bought the Ti hardware for my racing wheels.

If I was not racing, I would save the money and not get them. I don't know if they add enough strength for the additional cost. I also understand that the Ti hardware "corrodes" or discolors while the "street" stainless steel holds its appearance better.
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I bought the Ti hardware for my racing wheels.

If I was not racing, I would save the money and not get them. I don't know if they add enough strength for the additional cost. I also understand that the Ti hardware "corrodes" or discolors while the "street" stainless steel holds its appearance better.
Thanks David. Don't care about appearance as these are track-only, but not race (yet ). I know the lighter rotational weight is better for performance, but not sure which is stronger, ti or ss.
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I recommend the T1 hardware for the 3 piece CCW's. It will help the performance. Have John install them at the factory.

I will also be offering Ti Wheel Studs and Lug Nuts in the near future
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DJWorm,
You always have excellent posts about cutting weight from our cars. You might enjoy this:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=976812
I got a lot of the information from you. I've barely started that thread, so it has a long way to grow, but many small updates will get it there.

If you'll sell parts separately, I'll definitely be a customer.
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