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Old 01-17-2005, 12:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The best way to burn out without a LINE LOCK?

guys im new to drag racing and faced alot of problems in launching my car on the strip due to major wheel spin in 1st and 2nd gear and its all because I dont burn my tires alot coz of the ABS brakes locking the rear tires.

how do you usually burn your tires before drag racing? whats the best way in your opinion?

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Old 01-17-2005, 05:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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line lock allows more consistency in the process, back into water, pull forward out of water, set line lock, put into gear, drop clutch and hold rpm above 5000...wait for tire smoke to pass driver window (5 seconds?) and then release and roll-out of burn...as short a distance as possible...then stage and hammer....some like 2nd gear burn.
Sorry - I just saw that question was "without linelock"...my comments are for with linelock....
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Old 01-17-2005, 07:11 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Turn the traction control off. Leave the active handling on (JMHO). Run the RPMs up to about 5k or so (depends on where you feel comfortable) then pop the clutch and immediately move your left foot from the clutch pedal to the brake pedal and apply just enough pressure to keep the car from moving but allowing the tires to spin.

Btw, do not do this "IN" the burnout box but roll thru it and do it just on the dry side of the box.

Here is some footage of me doing this technique on concrete.
http://performin.homeip.net/videos/burnout.mov
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Old 01-17-2005, 09:04 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Norm's description is very good. Exactly what I do except in 2nd gear. The tires will spin faster in 2nd and you will be less likely to bounce off the rev limiter.
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Everyone has their own opinion on this, but I'm not convinced that doing a true water box burn out on stock Goodyears does much good. Since they are not a true drag radial or sticky tire, anything more than getting the tires warm before the run is wasted tread IMHO.

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Everyone has their own opinion on this, but I'm not convinced that doing a true water box burn out on stock Goodyears does much good. Since they are not a true drag radial or sticky tire, anything more than getting the tires warm before the run is wasted tread IMHO.

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I agree with Mike. The only thing I'm sure that a "burnout" with stock tires does is rip up the rubber and track prep for the drag cars that really need it.

If you do have a DR or a slick and you'll be going to the track frequently, then the best thing to do is install a line lock. You'll be more consistant and have less wear on the drivetrain/brakes.
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..... The only thing I'm sure that a "burnout" with stock tires does is rip up the rubber and track prep for the drag cars that really need it.

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I agree with Mike. The only thing I'm sure that a "burnout" with stock tires does is rip up the rubber and track prep for the drag cars that really need it.

If you do have a DR or a slick and you'll be going to the track frequently, then the best thing to do is install a line lock. You'll be more consistant and have less wear on the drivetrain/brakes.
ill be using my DR.. but is line lock necessary? do you all have line lock or u really dont need it? some say its a waste of money??
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Here is some footage of me doing this technique on concrete.
http://performin.homeip.net/videos/burnout.mov
thanks Norman.... nice video
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ill be using my DR.. but is line lock necessary? do you all have line lock or u really dont need it? some say its a waste of money??
It isn't necessary, but if you'll be tracking the car often, it will definitely be a help. Burnouts will be easier and more consistent.
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It isn't necessary, but if you'll be tracking the car often, it will definitely be a help. Burnouts will be easier and more consistent.
Easier on the brake pads also.
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ill be using my DR.. but is line lock necessary? do you all have line lock or u really dont need it? some say its a waste of money??
If you don't want to use the line lock then do as described by PerforminNorman above...i.e. rev release clutch and quickly move foot to brake...can be frustrating ... but if you have a line lock you set the brake then release clutch, you don't have to do all the foot movement...really does eliminate or reduce chance for error...

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If you don't want to use the line lock then do as described by PerforminNorman above...i.e. rev release clutuch and quickly move foot to brake...can be frustrating but if you have a line lock you set the brake then release clutch, you don't have to do all the foot movement...really does eliminate or reduce chance for error...
Not to meantion embarrassment if you mess up and kill the engine.
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[quote=MSiska]Norm's description is very good. Exactly what I do except in 2nd gear. The tires will spin faster in 2nd QUOTE]



You don't need no stinkin' line lock!
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What linelock are you guys running? I went to the track last night with my nittos for the firts time and had a hard time heating them up real well. MY 60 foot times stunk.
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