Sorry I still have to disagree with that descriptionSubdriver said:Have to disagree with that description. Both five points and six points actually only have five attachments to the buckle. They differ in that a five point has a single strap that goes down from the buckle (between the legs) and bolts to something centerline under the driver's seat.
A six point sub strap also hooks to the buckle on the center bottom spot, but has two straps that come out vice one (e.g. in a "V"). The two ends also go down between the legs and bolt to two attachments under the driver's seat, normally one on each rear corner of the seat.
Okay... you're answer is more complete.fatbillybob said:Sorry I still have to disagree with that description
5 pt goes to the cam then the seat hole then the floor/cage
6pt v style as DJ described
6pt T style has same v style cam hook up point but the straps are on a "T" bar to geive more room to the boys.
6 pt formula style has 2 individual subs going up the seat hole and onto the sholuder belts via d rings on the lap belt
6 pt formula hybrid has 2 individual subs going up the seat hole and onto the lap belts via a cam modified to be fixed to one of the shoulder belts
Then all 6ts can be done without a seat sub hole "parachute style."
jlucas said:Don't forget 7 point!!
SilverBulletZ said:Can you use 6-pt. harness' without having a split seat?
The website you fingered says that is is 5 pt compatible. So you have to go with manfg. recs unless you call them and they say 6pt is O.K.. I cannot see the sub area but I assume that means it has a hole. Even a slit somewhere in the usual 5pt area is still a hole so my thinking is it will be fine. Now my fancy custom seat has a 5 pt hole and 2 fancy sloted angled 6pt sub holes. This ads more "correct" geometry to the 6pt sub action. It is required...no. In fact one of the other most popular racing HANS seats the Recaro spg pro I think only has the 5pt hole but this seat can be used with a 6pt harness. You'll have to check on that I'm 90% sure. But that said 99% of the 6 pts I have seen are run through the 5pt hole. 1% of sportcars I see use parachute formula style. I have never seen my style 6pt dedicated holes in anything but a full NASCAR pro car. I have used 5pts for years and just did so two weeks ago. I now understand 6pts is a better way to go so I am converting my car as my cage and seat gets converted this summer. I think the real question is does the seat fit you. I say sit in the seat and go for a tight fit. Sometimes we smaller frame people can't get a good plastic seat fit. But we can buy aluminium and sometimes bend them in key areas for a tighter fit. I know that driver position and retnetion does help laptimes. Sliding around hitting a seat's side bolsters is only a little bit better than the stock vette seat. Tight bolsters that hold you in are the way to go. You can pad up some plastic seats for a tight fit but you need to look at the contruction of the seats. Also, that steel plastic combo may be really heavy. Less weight is free horsepower. If you are small watch the height of the shoulderbelt holes relative to your shoulder height. You want the top of your shoulder to be about 1/3rd to 1/2 the way up from the bottom lip of the holes. This way you get just about to the bottom upon belt tightening and have room if one day you decide to use a HANS device as that adds about 1 inch to your shoulder height and 3 piece firesuit with epaulets on the shoulder another 1/4" or so. If you are short and your shoulder top is right at the bottom of the holes you will not get the best action of the seat/belt combo in a crash as the shoulder belt will want to compress beyond the belt holes but will be restricted. Go sit in the seat you want to buy. That seat says up to 38" waist driver. That is a big guy IMO. Also, if you use a non-full containment seat consider using sidenets. These help retain you as typical race seats tend to spill you out in a crash. They are very cheap and can be easily removed in a street/track car.SilverBulletZ said:Yes, wrong thing. No biggie. I was talking about having a split bottom part of the seat (individual "legs" if you will), not a reclining seat. Basically having a slit to put the 6-pt sub belts through.
Linky to the seat I'm thinking about purchasing. I'm no wheel-to-wheel racer, but my small light frame does not go with the much wider, non-bolstered sides of the standard vette seat.
With this seat what would be the best suggestion for a belt setup?