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Mr. Goodwrench tells me I have a "black box" on my Z!!!!! If you crash, it tells all....Does anyone know where the black box is located and can it be removed??
 

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Behind the HVAC controls and if you remove it, your airbags will be disabled. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif I don't like it either, but I would rather have my airbags functioning, the way I drive sometimes. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
 

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Hi there,
everyone calls it a black box, and what it simply does is control the air bag function.
It does not tell all, it simply records the events at the actual time of airbag deployment. This is the only time the record function is active.
Best to all, c4c5
 

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You're right!! I know what you mean.....I wouldn't want to disconnect my airbags either. The black box might snitch on you, but the airbag could save your life! It seems someone at GM has a devious mind!!
 

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I've been reading some stories about the black box (actually silver and is located below the AC) It is designed to record critical data about speed, braking, and seat belt use, in the moments before a crash.

GM is using this as proprietary information and cannot be release to law enforcement or insurance agencies. In fact it's encrypted and can only be retrieved by GM. The bottom line is to create safer cars.

Hope this helps...
 

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As I understand it, it records the most recent 5 seconds worth of a variety of performance data.
 

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It has already been used in law enforcement. Remember everything is subpenoable. I read about a case where the heirs of an estate sued the driver and used the data from the black box as evidence against the driver. Also another case where the police charged the driver with speeding after a fatal accident, again black box readings were used to determine final speed before impact and indicate negligence and a possible criminal act!
 

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You guys do realize that the OBD-II system takes data snapshots any time there is an error recorded (not just the trouble code).

My best friend was a mechanic at a Ford dealer for awhile, and they'd get mustangs in all the time that showed a code happened while the cars were doing 140+ (I would assume those were cobras, not GTs).

Anyone for a group purchase of the C5-R engine management system?
 

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If you like to drive your car fast, it's time to look out. I just saw where a Connecticut rental company was using onboard GPS to track speeders and give them tickets. Well, the courts ruled it illegal under state law, basically because they didn't warn people. Who know what's next?

We already have a black box recording who-knows-what in our C5s. How long before they put in OnStar, and can really track us?

It's time we fight back and demand that we don't want to be tracked and we definitely don't want big brother nosing into our privacy. Sure, the roads are public domain, and laws are made for the overall safety, but we as a large group of specific auto enthusiasts need to put the foot down and say we don't want that crap in our cars.

It's probably too late, I bet the 03s are testing OnStar, and the C6 has all kinds of techno surveillance gear on the drawing board--but maybe we can put up enough stink to slow it down.

I don't know about everybody else, but I don't think a manufacturer has the right to sell us something and then track our every usage of it.

Maybe this is an issue that we can rally together as a large group and have some control over our fate.
 

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We are working on something so the box does not store certain data, will keep you updated as to the progress on this. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif
 

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Does anyone have an update to this? Is there any way to reset? Will it only save the last 5 seconds before an airbag deployment?
I did not have the airbag deployed, but I hit a truck tire last night. I'm curious to know if the "black box" or the pcm keeps things like: top speed, time at that speed, or other info I should be concerned about?
 

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Hi there,
NO, there will be no recorded information on your tire impact.
Unless the air bags deployed, there will be no storage.
Besttoyou, c4c5:eek2:
 

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This has been going on for several years. The first heard of it was in an article (I have no idea where I read it at) which listed several vehicles with this in it. My wife's 2000 Pontiac GrandAM GT has it according to that article. I would not worry about them having the information. Do not give them access to your car and they cannot get it.

Legal smegal discovery of a lawsuit and court orders will bring out any information.

If I crash that bad I will just be glad to be alive.
 

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Well people, this is just another way BIG brother is watching you. Every time you use a credit card, they know what you spend and how you repay. Easy pass is another one. They know where you were and when! I wish we had a bit of the old "horse trading "spirit in us as then our business transactions would not be so recorded. Think about this, it scares me sometimes. Bill :cheers:
 
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