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I need your opinions good or bad on this design for a Corvette body kit. Here they are the GP/X body kit. Let me know honestly. Thanks everyone.




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Jason, I think the rear has too much going on it will be a dust and dirt magnet, it would be bad looking to see though. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif
 

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On 2001-04-05 01:06, Godsil Performance spewed forth this drivel:
I need your opinions good or bad on this design for a Corvette body kit. Here they are the GP/X body kit. Let me know honestly. Thanks everyone.Well, you asked for an honest opinion, well here it is. You’re joking right? The rear wing looks ridiculous, the only functionality I see there is about 10 - 15lbs of down force, (cause that’s what the thing weighs). Actually, if it’s designed improperly, it could actually provide lift. Keep this stuff OFF the corvette and let the teens put it on there ricers.

If these are drawings for an art class, OK, but please don't put in on your corvette.

Walking around car shows that feature all corvettes, you may have "overheard" the jokes and snickering" when people view corvettes (or most cars for that matter) that have all this useless plastic. I think we all make fun of the "Ricers" even here on this forum. It might help in your drawings if we ask, "why do we make fun of these "ricers"?

My fire suit is on.....Just trying to be honest. I do realize my response is a little agressive and you can probably tell I /we here in the chicagoland area car clubs don't really care for this stuff on our cars. Not to mention that it almost certainly reduces the value of the vehicle considerably. Fact, D&M corvette down the street from me has 2 identicle cars, one with a wing and one without. The one with the wing has 2600 miles less than the other, but no one wants the one with the wing, so its $1000.00 less. I suggested to them, take the wing off, well, they said they would like to but too many holes would be visible.

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This is one of those "Neat.. But not on my car, thanks" situations for me. The concepts are interesting -- and I'm sure there will be plenty of folks out there who would LOVE to put this kit on their cars...

...Just not me. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

From an artistic standpoint, I'd recommend the following: re-think the nose, as it DOES look too much like a Fiero's; the headlight orientation should be reversed, such that the larger (more forward) light ought to be on the INSIDE of the other light, following the tapered shape of the front of the car; and the upside-down triangular shape of the wing's uprights might not "go with" anything else on the car (I'd square the shape of it a bit more).

Just my opinions, of course!

Hell, man -- congrats on having the gumption to go ahead and put these ideas in motion. It's easy for us to bitch and moan about things, but having the guts to run with something is impressive.

I hope you find your niche!

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Thank you all for giving me your honest opinions. You can take off your Nomex Joe, this is exactly what I wanted. Well I would have prefered it to be successful because I am going to design and build a kit, but I know now that this one is not it. If I am going to be successful at it I have to ask you people so this is what I am doing. Nothing will be taken offence to. Kirk thank you so much for your reply, these drawings really are nothing to do. The thing that hurt the most was when I dumped $60,000 in a 2000 Dakota without asking around first if they would sell, that hurt, luckily not bad enough to hinder the purchase of my C5. I failed at the truck business because I didn't ask around first. I will not make that mistake twice. I have already gone back to the drawing board and redone this body kit. No spoiler and a new front fascia. I will post it tomorrow when I am done if you guys will comment on it again. Thank you again.
 

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Hey Jason --

The reply is my (our, I'm sure) pleasure! I hope it helps!

One thing to think about also (for the sake of argument, I'll pretend like you haven't thought about it already): It appears that there are body kits that "add" a lot of junk to a car, and then there are those that "claen up" the appearance of some cars. As long as you are designing REPLACEMENT (as opposed to add-on ground effect-style pieces), you really have the freedom to do what you want with the lines of the car -- and so you just might want to make some subtle changes to the C5 (that people might really appreciate).

Sometime last year there was a VW GTI (a modern one) that a tuner had done. It still looked like a VW GTI, but WOW was this thing clean and sweet! Instead of adding to the body with flamboyant pieces, they made subtle changes in lower body lines (for instance, they tucked the rear facia under so that it looked almost like a Porsche (924, was it?)), flared the fenders slightly, etc. It was really beautiful.

On my Jeep Wrangler, there are aftermarket wide flares (to cover wide tires) available from a number of manufacturers. The ones I went with are ones that look just like the stock ones (in overall shape, and in simplicity) -- only they're wider. There are others that are jsut as wide, but that have lines, and rakes, and curves and whatnot. Now, some people like them, I suppose, but I just wanted something that was stock-like, only wider. Same kind of thinking might apply with a lot of C5 owners, you know?

Now, granted, the C5 flowing design is already good (and wide, and low), so it's probably a bit tough to reshape. But then again, the whole car might not need any tinkering. For me, I'd have prefered the C5 to have a lower air-splitter style front end -- but I WOULDN"T want to lower the ground effects of the rest of the car. Maybe you could concentrate on a couple "areas' of the care that you think might need addressing, rather than looking at a "total kit" for the car.

Finally (I'm going to get off my soapbox really soon!), whereas I think your designs are cool, I think the demographics involved with C5 owners might be the real stumbling black here. The car is expensive, the owners tend to be older (I'm only 30, though), the people who buy them may have "always liked Corvettes" (and so they might not want to mess with the shape at all), blah blah blah. I'm just thinking that the C5 might fall into a quirky demoraphic that might not have anything to do with your designs being good or bad overall.

Keep up the interest, Jason! (Sorry for RAMBLING, everyone!)

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Kirk, again thanks. I am also young at only 24. This C5 is my 5th Corvette although I haven't really hung out with the Corvette guys much so I dont know what they like yet. I have spent the past few years hanging out with the Viper guys who likes the add-ons and the wings and such, so I have to learn and that is what I am trying to accomplish here. I will alter this idea as much as I can until I hit one. I, personally dont like add-ons, I don't even like when someone changes wheels on a Corvette unless they are another stock wheel, but there is body kits, and then there is different bodies. Take the Aerobody Callaways, he changed them so much that they were then a different car, that is what I am trying to accomplish. I dont know many that didn't like the Callaway body. Anyway I think you people will like the latest design I have come up with, if you don't approve I think you will agree that it is better than the first one.
 
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