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Just got my February copy of Car & Driver!!

See page 71 titled "The Great Detector Test."

Six pages covering 6 detectors.....

Out of 100 possible points, the Valentine One was Numero Uno at 97 points :D

Next best was the Escort Passport at 73 points.....

Third best score was the Bel 980 at 61 points.....

The bottom 3 csored at 43, 35 and 34 points.

Soooooooo, I guess this ends the Radar Detector Wars for a while.

01ZEE06
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IMA Z06,

Wow!! I thought I had a SCOOP!! I missed that one and I'm checking in here several times a day :-?

Guess I should have done a search first....oh well, maybe there will be others who also missed the first thread ;)

Time for a :guiness:

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Barrie,

This is the place for scoops, Remember if you didn't hear it here first it aint true........................................................

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No, it's just like the post I ran, on www.radartest.com
The Escort Smokes the V1............
So, who is getting paid the most..............?
This is what came back from that article........
So, bottom line......which one works for you, is the best.......;)
 

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Mike Valentine developed the original Escort for Cincinnati Microwave back in the '80's. He was the driving force behind the success of that product and started his own company 6-8 years ago.

While other competing publications also conduct radar tests, Car & Driver has been doing it for about 20 years. Their methodology is very sound and the fact that they purchase the detectors for the test at retail (i.e. mystery shopping) also lends credence to the results.

You may prefer another detector for any number of reasons, but Valentine 1 is the best by far in my book.

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Well

I have both,,,,,
And they are both good units.............
Best feature by far on the V1, is/are the arrows.........
Worst, is the NO BACKLIGHTING for the different radar's detected......( you can't see WHAT type of radar you are up against at night.....this is bad juju.
The 8500 Passport, spells it out for you...........and in a size most folks can read.......it also is better at Ka detection at distance..........
Laser......well, you & I are all alone on this one!!!!!!!!:eek:
 

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Z06LS6,
Since you have both, I want to ask you two questions.

Money no object, which would you buy again?
Factoring in the price difference (equivalent to front floor mats) which would you buy?

I am looking at both and have my wallet out, but still can't decide.

I did realize that I can't go that wrong with either one. They are both great detectors!

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I have the V1. As far as laser goes, I can pick it up, up to 2-3 cars ahead of me that are getting hit with it. Car and driver said that the V1 has the widest detection for laser front and rear.

As for the radartest.com test the guy who wrote the story was upset because everyone else except valentine hired him as a consultant:

http://www.valentine1.com/lab/V1Hater.asp
 

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I don't get why no backlighting at night is a problem trying to differentiate between different types of radar. I listen to the unique tone genetated by the Valentine 1 for different radar sources. I rarely look at my detector unless I hear KA band or laser, since those are the most urgent (and unique) threats in Florida. K band is obviously in wide-spread use, but you generally have a longer lead-time to react, unless it's instant on. Since 1993, I have had an NSX, Porsche 911 Turbo and my Z06. They all had V1 protection. The ONLY ticket I received in any of these cars was from a cop pacing me from behind in the dark. And just like Jimi Hendrix, "90 miles an hour is the speed I drive."

IMHO, Valentine 1 is the only choice in radar detectors (and I'm not a paid consultant). :cool:
 

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Since getting a V1 for Christmas, I've been looking for (not inviting, per se, but just looking for) a situation that would demonstrate how effectively the arrows and bogey counter work on this thing (after hearing all the praise). Well, the V1 hasn't saved me just yet -- but already I know that it will.

I was flying down the interstate here when the V1 started flipping out. Upon nearing a traffic warning sign on the other side of the road, and having the arrows go from "ahead" to "to the side" to " behind," I could clearly see as I passed it that the traffic sign had a radar mounted to it. But I also noted that the bogey counter had gone to "2," and that the "ahead" arrow had lighted again. The V1 never stopped chirping a warning of the same radar band. Then, @ 30 seconds later, a state trooper went flying by, sirens blaring. The V1 clearly showed the two different radar sources. Granted, the radar sources were on the other side of the barrier-divided highway, so I wasn't in any real danger of being nabbed -- but had the trooper been on MY side of the highway, and had I stopped being concerned with my speed after passing the traffic sign's radar, then I -- without a V1 -- certainly could have been nabbed easily.

And then there are the little things like the excellent suction cup mount (I know a lot of people prefer something else in their Vettes, but you can't deny the quality and easy-of-use of it), the light-sensitive dimming feature, and the ability to set the "mute" volume level.

The V1's just great!

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Z06LS6, I am also waiting for your reply. Ready to buy, and I see everyone here praising the V-1, so that will probably be my choice. However, I would like to hear from someone who has both. I do like the compact size of the passport, but does it perform as well ??? Me and chrisj are waiting.
 

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MW & Chris J

Well, like I said the unit's are both good, and have their strong points...
I really like the feature of the arrows......esp for rear bogey's.
The multiple scenario radrar set ups really hold no credence, as ANY unit will go off with 2 separate signals......you have to pay attention.
That said, i think the V1, is a bettter unit (exclusively ) because of the arrows..........
I find myself whenever the 8500 goes off LOOKING all over for where the threat may be..........So, go with the V1.
I will personally stick with the 8500 for night driving.......
The different sounds that eminate for diffferent bands of radar require a lot of use to learn..............and that may JUST get you a citation BEFORE you learn..........
I may change my mind after more use..............but, the ARROWS are a definite mind at ease plus.
Just costs an extra $100.00.....over the 8500.
I do like the fact that the V1, comes with everything you need, and the 8500 comes up short on this end........a box fit for a Rolex I do not need to pay extra for...........;)
 

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Z06LS6,
Thanks for the writeup.
I have two more questions, if you don't mind.
You use the 8500 at night because the V1 sounds are hard to distinguish? Is that correct?
Also, what is not included with the 8500? Is it missing a mount or the cord? If so, I imagine that closes the price difference pretty fast.

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The 8500 comes with a 12v power cord, and a suction cup set up......also an extra set of cups.
A beautiful box(like we all need that)..............
THe sounds of the V1, I am not yet accustomed to.....so, as my earlier post says.......time will heal that anomaly.
But, while driving, I would PREFER to trust a LED readout of EXACTLY what radar is ahead......( at night).
Still it's not an inrexpensive unit, and is one of the top 3.............
If I were to buy ONLY one again, it would now be the V1, simply from the aspect of WHERE the threat/s are coming from.......
 

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Done deal.
Z06LS6, thanks a bunch. After months of research, I have decided to go with the V1.
To pay for the difference, I axed my premium cable channels -hbo, etc. No big deal, I am out driving not watching tv anymore.

5000 miles in 2.5 months!!!

Now for better radar protection!!!

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With the V1 on my cross country road trip I went 4/5, lost one in the dark on I-10 going towards El Paso. I didn't have enough time to react to the bogey ahead on motion radar. Otherwise, I could pick up the bogeys about 3 miles away.
 

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Re: MW & Chris J

ZO6LS6 said:
The multiple scenario radrar set ups really hold no credence, as ANY unit will go off with 2 separate signals......you have to pay attention.
Hmmm... I'm not sure I understand this (or that you understood what I was saying). My old radar detector certainly went off when picking up more than one signal -- but if both of those signals were along the same band, then there was NO indication that there was more than one source of radar. The beauty of the V1 (and, hell, maybe more radar detectors show you this NOW-a-day) is that it tells you the number of radar sources so that you're always informed of more radar ahead (instead of thinking that you safely passed the "only" source). That's where the bogey counter is important to me -- it discerns the number of sources, and doesn't just report that it's picking up a signal or signals.

Now, why are you so concerned with the band of radar backlighting? (I don't ask 'cause you shouldn't have the concern -- rather, I simply don't understand the concern.) I've found that I can usually attribute a 4 or 5 bogey situation, sometimes with multiple bands being reported, to strip malls and whatnot (which are always lighted at night), so if it's a matter of discerning "false" alarms of infrequently-used bands, I try to assess the surroundings. Otherwise, I simply react to the warning as I deem appropriate, regardless of what band it is. What is the so important (to you, or anyone) about knowing the band of radar at night? "How many" and "where" are the most important factors for me. (Again -- this isn't a "what's your problem?!" kind of rhetorical question... I'm just looking to be edumacated. :) )

Oh, and what's with the SIZE issue that people have with the V1? Are these guys looking for something to give adequate radar protection, or something that is comfortable to wear in a back pocket?! :roll: The V1 is certainly not "too big," as far as radar detectors go. You COULD put it in a pocket if you needed to (although that's probably not a good place for ANY detector), it fits in the glove box, and doesn't block your view of the road. What's the problem with its size?

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Kirk, I can answer the size question from my point of view. I just don't like the idea of a larger unit hanging on my winshield. I think the more compact the unit, the neater and less noticeable it will look. Maybe the V-1 is not large enough to make an issue of this (I have not seen one in person), however in a picture posted here, I thought it looked kind of bulky. I would prefer everything to be as streamlined on the interrior as possible. Not a huge deal but if a smaller one performed as well, I would go for it.(I'll probably but the V-1)
 
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