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OK, I've done major research here, well, I just found my standard Chevrolet 2001 Warranty And Owner Assistance Information Booklet that comes tucked in the Z06 Owner's Manual pouch.

It states:
Damage as the result of any of the following is not covered:

-- collision, fire, theft, freezing, vandalism, riot, explosion, or objects striking the vehicle;

--misuse of the vehicle such as driving over curbs, overloading, racing, or other competition. Proper vehicle use is discussed in the Owner's Manual;

--alteration or modification to the vehicle including the body, chassis, or components after final assembly by GM. In addition, coverages do not apply if the odometer has been disconnected, its reading altered, or mileage cannot be determined.


Im my legal opinion, the key words are "as the result of". In other words, if they can prove the damage was the direct result of racing, or other restricted things, then it's not covered.

I assume they will have to prove it was the DIRECT result of racing, or other negligence.

In other words, Racing does not void your warranty

I feel like a major *** for getting so upset and riled up by facts which were misinterpreted to become huge sweeping rumors.

I apologize.

Just don't bust anything that's obviously racing related, and they'll fix it--end of story.
 

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I Feel much better now!!!

TGIF

Time for some margaritas!!!
 

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On 2001-06-22 17:14, SPDY Z06 spewed forth this drivel:
OK, I've done major research here, well, I just found my standard Chevrolet 2001 <B>Warranty And Owner Assistance Information
Booklet that comes tucked in the Z06 Owner's Manual pouch.

It states:
Damage as the result of any of the following is not covered:

-- collision, fire, theft, freezing, vandalism, riot, explosion, or objects striking the vehicle;

--misuse of the vehicle such as driving over curbs, overloading, racing, or other competition. Proper vehicle use is discussed in the Owner's Manual;

--alteration or modification to the vehicle including the body, chassis, or components after final assembly by GM. In addition, coverages do not apply if the odometer has been disconnected, its reading altered, or mileage cannot be determined.


Im my legal opinion, the key words are "as the result of". In other words, if they can prove the damage was the direct result of racing, or other restricted things, then it's not covered.

I assume they will have to prove it was the DIRECT result of racing, or other negligence.

In other words, Racing does not void your warranty

I feel like a major *** for getting so upset and riled up by facts which were misinterpreted to become huge sweeping rumors.

I apologize.

Just don't bust anything that's obviously racing related, and they'll fix it--end of story.


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It never hurts to read the warranty. You know the old saying: When all else fails RTFM..."

Happy Margarita
 

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Hey SPDY, you're a lawyer now? /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif I concur with your distinguished opinion Justice Scalia. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif I think throughout all of this, the one possibility you overlooked is that the guy who started this could be some 15 yr old troll. How do you know this guy wasn't just some troll who likes Japanese cars, not even owning a Z06, looking for an opportunity to start a controversy and make American cars look bad? If that is the case, he sure succeeded. I've seen plenty of those on these forums. I think its kind of funny how the guy hasn't said too much since he started this whole mess. Just something else to ponder.
 

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I was wondering the same thing. Only my twist was that it could have been linked to GM to give us a scare. After working for a large corp. for 15 years, I found out that being a little paranoid can be useful,IMHO.
 
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Sorry to kill your joy but in fact G.M can void the total car warranty for racing and non OEM parts for it happened to me.

In 1995 my 1994 ZR-1 that I paid over $60,000 for began to have minor ZF trannis syncro problems.

Took the car to a dealer, 3 weeks later I called and said when is my car fixed and was told the warranty, including the extended was ripped up and voided.

Their claim was since I had redline fluid in tranne, a K&N air filter and because they felt car had been raced, go piss up a rope.

To get the car out of that dealer I had to fork over $5,000 for a trannie swap ( because G.M did not fix ZF trannies) just for a minor 2nd gear syncro grind !

I sued the dealer and the lawyer lost the case, the judge sided with G.M, not that they were right but it all comes down with who has the better lawyer and money to dump into lawsuits and judges hate us taxpayers and love big business.

So any dealer can get onto a G.M service computer and type in "raced" and from then on that VIN number is glued to that and even though it is wrong, the point is your out of a warranty unitl and if you can win the case that drags in the courts for a year or better.

Sorry, but it's true so next time you swap parts for non G.M parts, it can happen to you.

It's the dealer that makes or breaks you, for they are the ones typing crap into computers.

I contacted Dave Hills office and told them this was my 10th Corvette and alway treated my cars better then myself and was told, to take a hike, go buy a C5 and the golf clubs fit in the hatch story and I was weird because most people buy a Corvette to carshow or caravan and not fo grass roots racing.
So that's what happens when you buy Z power from G.M /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_frown.gif


Ohh BTW, the same dealer who screwed me, sponsors a Corvette club and fixes those members Corvettes under warranty even when they know the Corvettes were raced.

John
 
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On 2001-06-23 20:41, fcalmes spewed forth this drivel:
John , welcome to the forum and thanks for your first hand insight.

Thanks Frank, I just do not want other Corvette owners to have to go through what I did esp since people within g.M's Team Corvette was telling me how to race the ZR-1 better to get G.M good press in grass roots racing and then when a minor probblem happens G.M sticks it to you big time.

Consider either doing squat with the car until warranty period is over, tell G.M to stick the warranty from day one, or make sure you kiss the dealers ass all the time so they stick it to G.M with warranty claims.

It stinks for America's only sport car, where nameplate itself races the car on sunday to sell on monday, but then as a good example, a guy with a Z06 complained of excessive oil usage and demanded a new engine via the Lemon law.
G.M refused the engine replacement by saying the dealer looked at the rear tires and they seemed to have excess wear and thus owner must be racing it and thus he caused the problems we know exist with the LSX and oil loss.
 

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While the warranty is written such that the failure has to be proven a result of the aftermarket modification, racing, etc... the burden of proof will lie on YOU, not GM. Sure, ultimately, legally, GM has to prove it - but how many of you will take it that far? How many of you can AFFORD to take it that far? Not many of us can or will. And GM knows this.

Just like the whole "innocent until proven guilty". Sure, the law is written that way, but how often does it ACTUALLY happen? Ask yourself that the next time a cop pulls you over... it's all the same.
 

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Well, it sounds as though the warranty wording covers my ass, but GM is manipulating it to cover their ass.

In court, it's unlikely I can beat them, if we disagree on the wording, so I guess all I can do is drive conservatively and cross my fingers.

I tell you one thing though, if I have a big problem that they won't cover because of "racing" I will make sure that they spend a lot more $$ recovering from the major "shit storm" of negative publicity I brew up.

I was looking forward to running quarter miles, and running my car at the Sebring Panoz Racing School", but now I probably should not.

If I do get in an accident, I should sue GM for not allowing me to get proper training at "drving schools" without risking warranty problems.

This IS NOT OVER!
 
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